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by Jo » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Is a P2 333 (with 12MB Voodoo2 card) sufficient power to run GPL with
all options on at 30+fps in full-field race conditions?

I'm getting a computer upgrade (from my P200), and I'd like to go to a
P2 400 but they are very expensive CPUs, twice the cost of the 333. I
realize I MIGHT be able to overclock the 333, but then again I might
not. So is the 333 enough power for GPL, or does it really want more?
You can assume I'll have a lot of memory (probably 128 MB).

Joe

by **Jan Otto Ruu** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I have a Celeron 300a which I run at 450 MHz, and GPL wants all of it:-).

I'm sure a P2 333 will be sufficient, but IMHO an overclocked 300a is a
cheaper and better alternative if you take the risk involved in
overclocking.

-Jan Otto

>Is a P2 333 (with 12MB Voodoo2 card) sufficient power to run GPL with
>all options on at 30+fps in full-field race conditions?

>I'm getting a computer upgrade (from my P200), and I'd like to go to a
>P2 400 but they are very expensive CPUs, twice the cost of the 333. I
>realize I MIGHT be able to overclock the 333, but then again I might
>not. So is the 333 enough power for GPL, or does it really want more?
>You can assume I'll have a lot of memory (probably 128 MB).

>Joe

by **Joe Wals** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I run a P200MMX at 3x75Mhz
A Diamond Monster (Voodoo 1)
SB 128PCI (which I still have intermitant problems with....)
128Mb SDRAM (10ns)
all off of a Quantum Fireball 4.3 SE SCSI

Full field, full details (including mirrors), Runs at 30FPS on a closed
'testing track' and 25-30 in a race. It does bog down to 25fps when there's
something big going on sometimes, but the way I look at it over 25fps is
gravey.

I'd say you shouldn't have any problems with a P2 333 would be great,
provided you have some other choice gear to back it up.

Cheers

Joe Walsh

>I'm sure a P2 333 will be sufficient, but IMHO an overclocked 300a is a
>cheaper and better alternative if you take the risk involved in
>overclocking.

>-Jan Otto

>>Is a P2 333 (with 12MB Voodoo2 card) sufficient power to run GPL with
>>all options on at 30+fps in full-field race conditions?

>>I'm getting a computer upgrade (from my P200), and I'd like to go to a
>>P2 400 but they are very expensive CPUs, twice the cost of the 333. I
>>realize I MIGHT be able to overclock the 333, but then again I might
>>not. So is the 333 enough power for GPL, or does it really want more?
>>You can assume I'll have a lot of memory (probably 128 MB).

>>Joe

by **John Moor** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I would agree with Jan. I also upgraded to a celeron 300a and at 300 it was
good, 338 was better, then at 378 it was getting really good but it finally
got right at a full 450mhz. I get 30fps on the grid with all graphics and a
full field of ai cars, halfway to the first turn it's at 36fps all the way.
The only time it slows is a Monza, 30+fps.
John

by **Knuds** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

300x200 ???

No-no just kidding :)

But I would like to know your resolution.

Im running a Celery 300 at 464Mhz, 2xV2 12mb,
1024x768, all details ahead on, only textures in
mirrors on, everything else on, bias approx. in the
middle(bit over).
Framerate at 36, 98% of a lap(Monza, Spa, so far ...),
When alone. Drops to everything between 18-36 depending
on how many cars, sounds there is, and how close they are.
Typical 25-30 fps with three cars attacking me :)

Happy racing.

Knudse.

If in doubt ... Overtake.

.

> I run a P200MMX at 3x75Mhz
> A Diamond Monster (Voodoo 1)
> SB 128PCI (which I still have intermitant problems with....)
> 128Mb SDRAM (10ns)
> all off of a Quantum Fireball 4.3 SE SCSI

> Full field, full details (including mirrors), Runs at 30FPS on a closed
> 'testing track' and 25-30 in a race. It does bog down to 25fps when there's
> something big going on sometimes, but the way I look at it over 25fps is
> gravey.

> I'd say you shouldn't have any problems with a P2 333 would be great,
> provided you have some other choice gear to back it up.

> Cheers

> Joe Walsh

by **John** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

No, it isn't, at least not at the higher resolutions. I'm running a PII
333Mhz clocked to 416Mhz with a Voodoo 2. The problem lies with the number
of competitors which makes high demands on the CPU. In general I get mid 30s
most of the time running with a field of 13 at the 9 something by 7
something resolution with detail slider at around 60% and only cars in the
mirrors. Remember that you most need frame rate when things get intense.
I've tried adding a second V2 (borrowed) which proves worthwhile in
graphically intensive sits such as Monaco or a tightly bunched field.
However it doesn't help with the AI load. Nonetheless I'm going SLI. You
should consider the Celeron 300A - cheaper and at least as clockable as the
PII333. Either way, make sure that your m/board is decent quality (a known
brand - I can vouch for the Gigabyte GA6BXC) and that it supports the higher
bus speeds (75 and 83 and their 100+ equivs).

>Is a P2 333 (with 12MB Voodoo2 card) sufficient power to run GPL with
>all options on at 30+fps in full-field race conditions?

>I'm getting a computer upgrade (from my P200), and I'd like to go to a
>P2 400 but they are very expensive CPUs, twice the cost of the 333. I
>realize I MIGHT be able to overclock the 333, but then again I might
>not. So is the 333 enough power for GPL, or does it really want more?
>You can assume I'll have a lot of memory (probably 128 MB).

>Joe

by **Knuds** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Sorry-

Car textures in mirrors ofcause.

Knudse.

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