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by **pqt2** » Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Get Viper, I doubt you will be happy with the frame rate of GPL on your
"200". Paul

by **Scott Moor** » Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I think you'd be much happier with Viper Racing. Not only will it run
better, but GPL is a different animal than the titles you listed. I'd
foretell a lot of frustration on your part....

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>Hi there,

>I just got myself a nice new Voodoo 2 card and now I can finally get
>some modern games. Both GPL and Viper sound attractive. I guess what I
>need to know, is whether the following system is good enough to run
>either or both of them satisfactorily:

>- Pentium Pro 200
>- 64MB RAM
>- Matrox Millenium
>- Voodoo 2
>- Windows 98

>I'm happy turning off some graphical features in exchange for a decent
>frame rate (25-30fps) that doesn't degrade. 640*480 is also quite
>acceptable to me although I'd prefer 800*600.

>Oh yes, in terms of which game I'd prefer, the games I have played and
>enjoyed the most are F1GP (Amiga), Indy 500 (Amiga), Revs (BBC), Stunt
>Car Racer (Amiga), Gran Turismo (PSX), NFS SE (PC), NFSIII (PSX). Oh
>yes, and my all time favourite - Wipeout on the Playstation.

>Please note - criticising my choice of Wipeout in a sim group may lead
>to a larger and longer flame war than you'd expect. Not that I'm
>fanatical about it. Honest. :-)

>(I'd like to play them at work too on my dual PII 400 with 256MB and a
>G200, but I've only got NT installed.)

>--
>Thomas Beagle

by **Paul Jone** » Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:00:00

You can run GPL satisfactorily on a Pentium Pro because of the same speed
cache. My second machine is a Pentium Pro with a Voodoo1 (and my other car
is a Lotus :-) ) and it works ok for LAN races. It won't give you the best
frame rates but if you turn off some of the "nice to have" graphics
features you should be pushing 30fps which is adequate.
Viper runs fine on a PP200.
As far as the choice between Viper and GPL goes, I would get both, but,
having got both, expect to be playing a lot more GPL once you have got the
hang of those beasts - IMO, GPL is the most rewarding sim on the market
place today,
Paul

> Hi there,

> I just got myself a nice new Voodoo 2 card and now I can finally get
> some modern games. Both GPL and Viper sound attractive. I guess what I
> need to know, is whether the following system is good enough to run
> either or both of them satisfactorily:

> - Pentium Pro 200
> - 64MB RAM
> - Matrox Millenium
> - Voodoo 2
> - Windows 98

> I'm happy turning off some graphical features in exchange for a decent
> frame rate (25-30fps) that doesn't degrade. 640*480 is also quite
> acceptable to me although I'd prefer 800*600.

> Oh yes, in terms of which game I'd prefer, the games I have played and
> enjoyed the most are F1GP (Amiga), Indy 500 (Amiga), Revs (BBC), Stunt
> Car Racer (Amiga), Gran Turismo (PSX), NFS SE (PC), NFSIII (PSX). Oh
> yes, and my all time favourite - Wipeout on the Playstation.

> Please note - criticising my choice of Wipeout in a sim group may lead
> to a larger and longer flame war than you'd expect. Not that I'm
> fanatical about it. Honest. :-)

> (I'd like to play them at work too on my dual PII 400 with 256MB and a
> G200, but I've only got NT installed.)

> --
> Thomas Beagle

by **Brian D. Shor** » Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Get Viper.
On your p200, you wouldn't be happy with the framerates on GPL,
especially when trying to race the AI cars (which SEVERELY cut down on
the framerate).
Also, looking at the list of games you seem to like more, I wouldnt even
CONSIDER GPL... it's good for *** sim buffs, and people with a LOT
of patience, but if you just want to drive fast and have fun without too
much effort, it's not the game for you... IMO it was a major fubar on
Papyrus's part not to include any real difficulty settings, or a VERY
dumbed down arcade mode (look to F1RS on how THAT should be done)

Brian Short

by **Paul Jone** » Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Don't equate an ordinary Pentium 200MHz (or P200MHz Overdrive) with a
Pentium Pro 200MHz. The Pentium Pro has a cache that runs at the same speed
as the CPU which gives you stacks of extra performance over and above a
Pentium, which has a cache that runs at half the speed of the CPU. The
Pentium Pro's performance will approach a PII 266MHz for many operations
including ***. By getting the Pentium Pro Overdrive 333MHz you will get
performance nearing a PII 400MHz for many operations, although Intel are
charging way over the odds for it.
Paul

> Get Viper.
> On your p200, you wouldn't be happy with the framerates on GPL,
> especially when trying to race the AI cars (which SEVERELY cut down on
> the framerate).
> Also, looking at the list of games you seem to like more, I wouldnt even
> CONSIDER GPL... it's good for *** sim buffs, and people with a LOT
> of patience, but if you just want to drive fast and have fun without too
> much effort, it's not the game for you... IMO it was a major fubar on
> Papyrus's part not to include any real difficulty settings, or a VERY
> dumbed down arcade mode (look to F1RS on how THAT should be done)

> Brian Short

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