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IVGA, NRL, Papyrus, NASCAR, why not everyone?

David Marti

IVGA, NRL, Papyrus, NASCAR, why not everyone?

by David Marti » Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:00:00

I agree with what someone posted here recently, that Papyrus should be
conferring with IVGA to stop cheating.  They shouldn't ban any group.
The software can certainly do checks of setups.  Is this parameter out
of bounds?  Yes.  EJECT!  No. Let them race.  Can Papyrus employees who
have the inside information get around this.  No. Not unless they write
code into the system to ignore certain drivers.  The server has to have
more communication with the clients than just, where are you?  I'm
here.  I'm here now.  Now I'm here. ....  Noone is going to bark about a
pause in the simulation for 10-15 seconds while the server verifies the
setup of each driver and the weather conditions at each client.  At race
time, if everything has been checked, who can cheat.  Then all of the
"under the table" practices are visible to the other competitors, except
ones line during qualifying, but even that can be policed by the
server.  If you speed on pit row during qualifying then you are
penalized.  If your cars goes backwards on the track during qualifying,
you are penalized; it's not like you are likely to be sitting on the
pole after a spin during qualifying anyway, right?  Let's face it,
hawaii is just a prototype for NRL.  It runs using a client program that
has been in use for quite some time and has not totally been kept secret
from the public.  Hopefully, the code to NASCAR2 will not be given out
to anyone so noone will know how to cheat.  I trust Papyrus not to write
in code that excludes their employees from the cheat checks, so let them
race as well.

And I implore everyone to keep your setups as secret as possible.  Don't
give them out except to a trusted friend and teammate.  There's nothing
worse than having to compete against someone in a really great car that
doesn't know how to drive the pace lap.

David Martin

Jan Koh

IVGA, NRL, Papyrus, NASCAR, why not everyone?

by Jan Koh » Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:00:00



I tend to disagree with you, David.  I post my BEST setups at The Pits, and
I don't feel it does anything except help those who need more experience
in the setup area.

I've only been able to use someone else's setup one time, and all the rest
of the hundreds of setups I've messed with have not fit the bill or needed
tweaking for my driving style.

No one who can't drive a car is going to beat you, even with the same
setup.
They will be in the fence, or into another car before the race is over.  Or
you
will beat them with superior driving.  Or you may get caught up in an
accident,
and it won't really matter anyway.

I may change my mind when I start racing the NRL "professionally", but
currently,
this is my stance.

Cheers!

--

??Jan Kohl??        **Diamond Motorsports/Mad Yanks Racing Team**
Computer Systems Programmer
USAF Air-Ground Operations School
Hurlburt Field, FL

Castle Graphics - http://www.theuspits.com/jkohl/
The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/


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