Unfortunately, no. The current engine does not allow for multiple
physical models within the game. We will do what we can to tweak the
driver ratings, but beyond that this product will just include new
tracks, cars, and a calendar.
-----------------------------
Matt Marsala
Producer
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
What a load of Horse shit If it did there wouldn't have been a need
for a patch and then they had to patch the patch. and as far as all
the issues being addressed (another load of horse shit) yeah right
Matt are you reading this I personally Emailed you on the AI matter
and you still haven't addressed it. You've answered several post in
here today I'm asking now what about the AI ? When can we see
satisfaction?
Some people have no respect for a Kiss Ass either
"Dont buy the new product" you say. Well what the hell about
the product I've already bought that promised realism.
You say you dont have an AI problem well maybe you got like the only
perfect copy or something I dont know but mine sure is screwed up.
You see I personally like to run with Damage on and its just not
possible to actually run a serious race with the AI as screwed up as
it is. "No-one but you complains" You said that too but has it ever
occurred to you that alot of the people that own Nascar2 dont even
read this Newsgroup. Besides that there are a handful of people in
here that have said that they also experience AI problems. For your
information it has NOTHING to do with being configured to run on ones
system. Everything works fine but the AI is still shitty. Artificial
Intellegence indeed. "it happens every now and then" Well what if
your lurching problem only happened every now and then would you still
expect Papy to fix it? I think yes.
Now I'm done
Matt Marsola We're still waiting for a reply
I hope it is the rectangle to many ovals as it is.
Kerry Grant
> > >>The game will feature 10-13 tracks from the series as well as
> > >>up to 30 Grand National drivers.
> > YES! Finally! Hickory, Myrtle Beach, Homestead, Nazareth,
> > Milwaukee, and
> > the REAL short tracks!
> I hope the Homestead track is the new configuration (true oval, which
> is under construction) rather than the rectangle...
> Jim
> Todd
Let's see here:
"What does a company have to do to satisfy you people?"
Ahhh...I'll take a wild shot...deliver on their promises?
"Give them a chance for once."
Which "once" would that be? The first N2 patch? The second? The apparent
inability to address the issues that everybody wanted fixed in the first
place?
Actually, I though I was being rather pleasant. I truly *don't*
understand how a company with Papyrus' intelligence and Sierra's "finger
on the pulse" can design a game for fairly well-defined platforms, the
technical specifications of which are well-known, and still have
incredibly buggy games at release. I'm not a programmer, nor do I play
one on TV, but it seems that with a finite number of board and chip
combinations possible, it should be relatively straightforward to test
the product to the extent that there is SOME confidence it will work out
of the box. If business apps were released this way (well, Microsoft
gets away with it, yes -- but they're the 800-pound exception), the
software companies would not last very long.
If you're willing to accept paying $50-$60 for a game, then having to
patch it repeatedly like an old garbage scow, goody for you. I'm not.
Bart Brown
> N2 worked just fine, right out of the box, on just about everything.<
>Its not Sierra OR papy's job to ensure that YOU have a compatible
system, they make the game run on an IBM compatible setup under windows
and under DOS. the rest is up to you.<
Wrong. Sierra/Papyrus knows their market. They know (I should hope) that
people are using Cyrix/AMD/whatever/Matrox/Intergraph/whatever -- the
system requirements on the box state IBM PC or compatible. It's up to
THEM to ensure their product IS compatible with known
commercially-available clones. If it's not, then the box requirements
should state specifically that it's not.
<There were some minor problems with the origional program that people
pointed out and asked to have corrected, these things have been
addressed, and corrections continue on even now to make it the way the
sim-racers in the world WANT it to be.>
Funny, people in this NG haven't considered them "minor problems"
They do if they want to stay in business
As you've amply demonstrated. You don't know me at all, yet you've
referred to me, a complete stranger to you, in the following terms:
"just to try and hammer a little sense into your obviously
sesame seed sized brain running on a quarter-pounder of grease for
fuel"
"stay in your mcnugget munching, french-frie feeding world
and watch nascar on TV."
I don't recall using any defamatory language in this newsgroup to make a
point. Are you so bereft of intelligent argument that *you* have to
resort to this muck?
And then this:
"Leave the sim-world to those of us that are more
than happy to enjoy the game and appreciate having someone else
design-market-and work on it for us instead of wasting our time and
yours by posting this incorrigable drivel about 'making sure things
work'"
I missed the NG announcement about Someone dying and leaving you in
charge. As for "wasting time" by my (according to DOH!TrenT!) insane
insistence that things I purchase work, how much of a waste of time and
money is it when people buy products in the belief that they will
perform as advertised, and then spend the next several months
downloading patches and reconfiguring systems, just to discover NEW
bugs. Caveat venditor...
Physician, heal thyself.
No you didn't, you just gave in to an immature desire to proclaim to the
world that I am an idiot so *you* could look good by comparison. I don't
think it worked.
BTW, did you ever own a Yugo?
Bart Brown
Er.....I mean. Cool. <G>
Benjamin (who is _obviously_ looking forward to this)
<<If your not going to put up with it, DON'T and go away..>>
Dohhhhhh! Excellent riposte, dude -- right on the money. You've
certainly taught me the meaning of humility...
Bart
Wayne -- It's a school night, isn't it?
Bart
> I am pleased to announce that Papyrus is releasing an add-on package
> for NASCAR Racing 2 this fall based on the Busch Grand National
> series. The game will feature 10-13 tracks from the series as well as
> up to 30 Grand National drivers. A Busch calendar will also be
> included in the package to allow you to compete for the Grand National
> championship.
> To address the rumors I have read on RAS - no, we will not be
> including Daytona or IMS. I will post more info after we secure all
> of the appropriate licenses.
> -----------------------------
> Matt Marsala
> Producer
> Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
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>> You are already blasting them and the product hasn't even come out
>> yet? What does a company have to do to satisfy you people? Give
>>them a chance for once. I know that there were problems with the N2
>> patch, etc. but there is no sense holding a grudge.
>> Todd
><snippity-doo-dah)
>Let's see here:
>"What does a company have to do to satisfy you people?"
>Ahhh...I'll take a wild shot...deliver on their promises?
>"Give them a chance for once."
>Which "once" would that be? The first N2 patch? The second? The apparent
>inability to address the issues that everybody wanted fixed in the first
>place?
>Actually, I though I was being rather pleasant. I truly *don't*
>understand how a company with Papyrus' intelligence and Sierra's "finger
>on the pulse" can design a game for fairly well-defined platforms, the
>technical specifications of which are well-known, and still have
>incredibly buggy games at release. I'm not a programmer, nor do I play
>one on TV, but it seems that with a finite number of board and chip
>combinations possible, it should be relatively straightforward to test
>the product to the extent that there is SOME confidence it will work out
>of the box. If business apps were released this way (well, Microsoft
>gets away with it, yes -- but they're the 800-pound exception), the
>software companies would not last very long.
>If you're willing to accept paying $50-$60 for a game, then having to
>patch it repeatedly like an old garbage scow, goody for you. I'm not.
>Bart Brown
Now my question to you..... What are you trying to accomplish with a post like
this???? If your not going to put up with it, DON'T and go away..
SeeYa,
Wayne Bradley
>> so don't buy it if you don't like it. make your own game. see if u can
make
>>it any better
>Geez do you believe this guy? He writes this now but he's the one
>that started the ( Boycott the ICR2/N2 converter thread ).
>Tom your email address is right on the money
>only mispelled a little jyrk == jerk
>>N2 worked just fine, right out of the box, on just about everything.
>What a load of Horse shit If it did there wouldn't have been a need
>for a patch and then they had to patch the patch. and as far as all
>the issues being addressed (another load of horse shit) yeah right
>Matt are you reading this I personally Emailed you on the AI matter
>and you still haven't addressed it. You've answered several post in
>here today I'm asking now what about the AI ? When can we see
>satisfaction?
>>Some people have no respect for anyone.
>Some people have no respect for a Kiss Ass either
>"Dont buy the new product" you say. Well what the hell about
>the product I've already bought that promised realism.
>You say you dont have an AI problem well maybe you got like the only
>perfect copy or something I dont know but mine sure is screwed up.
>You see I personally like to run with Damage on and its just not
>possible to actually run a serious race with the AI as screwed up as
>it is. "No-one but you complains" You said that too but has it ever
>occurred to you that alot of the people that own Nascar2 dont even
>read this Newsgroup. Besides that there are a handful of people in
>here that have said that they also experience AI problems. For your
>information it has NOTHING to do with being configured to run on ones
>system. Everything works fine but the AI is still shitty. Artificial
>Intellegence indeed. "it happens every now and then" Well what if
>your lurching problem only happened every now and then would you still
>expect Papy to fix it? I think yes.
>Now I'm done
>Matt Marsola We're still waiting for a reply
Return the freaking game if you don't want it instead being a dork here. If
you want it so perfect, write your own if you can or you can go real racing.
There isn't any sim that is perfect. So shut the hell up
> >> so don't buy it if you don't like it. make your own game. see if u can
> make
> >>it any better
> >Geez do you believe this guy? He writes this now but he's the one
> >that started the ( Boycott the ICR2/N2 converter thread ).
> >Tom your email address is right on the money
> >only mispelled a little jyrk == jerk
> at least i won't comment on a damn product before it releases. Like I said
> if you think is buggy, go make one that's not. Also what different does it
> make if I talk about the ICR2 converter. I said it is my opinion. But did
> you? I don't think so.
God Bless,
Steve
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