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Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

Wolfgang Prei

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Wolfgang Prei » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00

Beyond GPL, we know there will be N3, and we hope there will be
ICR3/CART2 by Papyrus. But what else is to follow?

What *I*'d really love to see is:

a) a GT of the 60's sim, featuring Ford GT40s, Ferrari GTOs and Shelby
Cobras,

and, maybe even more fun,

b) a touring cars of the 60's sim, where Lotus Cortinas could race
Mini Coopers and Ford Galaxies. Just think of that! :)

Would anybody else be interested in seing those sims become a reality?
Or are there other suggestions?
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Todd

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Todd » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00


>Beyond GPL, we know there will be N3, and we hope there will be
>ICR3/CART2 by Papyrus. But what else is to follow?

>What *I*'d really love to see is:

>a) a GT of the 60's sim, featuring Ford GT40s, Ferrari GTOs and Shelby
>Cobras,

>and, maybe even more fun,

>b) a touring cars of the 60's sim, where Lotus Cortinas could race
>Mini Coopers and Ford Galaxies. Just think of that! :)

>Would anybody else be interested in seing those sims become a reality?
>Or are there other suggestions?

 Sure do I would love to see a simulation of the early 70's Australian
Touring car Races at Mt. Panarama Bathurst.
 The fields consisted of 351ci Ford Falcon GTHO V8's verses The 6 cylinder
General Motors Holden Torana XU1 , with a few Chrysler Chargers thrown in
for good measure. The races lasted over 6 hours and the 2 totally different
makes of cars shared the honours over the years.
 The battle between the Monster Fords and the light nimble XU1 has become
folk law among the die-hard Australian race fans, while the cars have become
the most sort after precious metal in the country.
 Todd.
Ian Ra

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Ian Ra » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00


> b) a touring cars of the 60's sim, where Lotus Cortinas could race
> Mini Coopers and Ford Galaxies. Just think of that! :)

Mini Coopers! Yum, would love to go screaming (literally) round
corners on 3 wheels :-)

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Dave E Henri

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Dave E Henri » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00


>Beyond GPL, we know there will be N3, and we hope there will be
>ICR3/CART2 by Papyrus. But what else is to follow?

>What *I*'d really love to see is:

>a) a GT of the 60's sim, featuring Ford GT40s, Ferrari GTOs and Shelby
>Cobras,

  Don't forget the Chaparrals!!!!!

  Since one of the features of GPL is a road car to drive the course and
learn it, I wonder how long it will take before we are using the
saloon/touring sedans to race offline???

Marc J. Nelso

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Marc J. Nelso » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00

I may be getting ahead of myself here, but when the T/A sim is
released later this year(?), perhaps we'll be able to play with
the car models and physics.  Considering the sim will feature
several different bodies (with their own characteristics), we
could have a hellava' good time creating "add-ons."

Of course, editors based on the new GPL-format 3do's would be
mucho cool too!  =)

Cheers!

Marc


> Beyond GPL, we know there will be N3, and we hope there will be
> ICR3/CART2 by Papyrus. But what else is to follow?

> What *I*'d really love to see is:

> a) a GT of the 60's sim, featuring Ford GT40s, Ferrari GTOs and Shelby
> Cobras,

> and, maybe even more fun,

> b) a touring cars of the 60's sim, where Lotus Cortinas could race
> Mini Coopers and Ford Galaxies. Just think of that! :)

> Would anybody else be interested in seing those sims become a reality?
> Or are there other suggestions?
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> Wolfgang Preiss       \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

> Uni des Saarlands       \ and U.S. law. You have been warned.

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S?ren Sarstru

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by S?ren Sarstru » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00

I would sure love to race a 1970 Porsche 917 (with Gulf t***, of course)
around Spa or Le Mans.

Soren Sarstrup

Racer23

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Racer23 » Wed, 27 May 1998 04:00:00

that would be very interesting flying around a corner three wheeling in a Mini

Edwin Solhei

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Edwin Solhei » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00


>  Since one of the features of GPL is a road car to drive the course and
>learn it, I wonder how long it will take before we are using the
>saloon/touring sedans to race offline???

I belive that feature/option has been scrapped and will not be in GPL.

I could be wrong tho...
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Edwin Solhei

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Edwin Solhei » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00


>  Since one of the features of GPL is a road car to drive the course and
>learn it, I wonder how long it will take before we are using the
>saloon/touring sedans to race offline???

I belive that feature/option has been scrapped and will not be in GPL.

I could be wrong tho...
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Best,
Edwin Solheim
ed_ on NROS

The Paddock - a legendary site..: http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock
Cheek Junior Team: http://home.sol.no/~solhmrek

Edwin Solhei

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Edwin Solhei » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00


>Beyond GPL, we know there will be N3, and we hope there will be
>ICR3/CART2 by Papyrus. But what else is to follow?

I can only think of 1 thing.... CAN-AM !!!!

Now *that* would be awsome!!
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Best,
Edwin Solheim
ed_ on NROS

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Cheek Junior Team: http://home.sol.no/~solhmrek

Matti Ronkk

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Matti Ronkk » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00

Finally people who think like I do! No thrill in driving a multi-million
italian sportscar, more fun can be found from rather conventional
pieces. I've been hoping for a long time that some company would make
a new version of California Dreams's ancient "Street Rod". Now there's a
game with idea! All it needs is a 3d city where to roam, and more tuning
options.

Wolfgang Prei

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Wolfgang Prei » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00


                                                     ^^^
                                     a "teaching assistant" sim?
Seriously, what does T/A stand for?

Not to put any pressure on you or the other TSP folks, but the people
who managed to morph an Indycar into an 80's GT surely could do
wonders with GPL. :)

BTW, when will the ICR2 carsets be available again? It says "soon" on
the page, but what does that mean exactly? Nice new layout, btw.

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Wolfgang Prei

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Wolfgang Prei » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00



>> b) a touring cars of the 60's sim, where Lotus Cortinas could race
>> Mini Coopers and Ford Galaxies. Just think of that! :)

>Mini Coopers! Yum, would love to go screaming (literally) round
>corners on 3 wheels :-)

There is a historical documentary series on on DSF (German sports TV
channel) where they show a lot of original footage from different
racing series of the 50s and 60s. The Coopers are spectacular, but the
Cortinas even more so, lifting the inner *front* wheel in corners.
Scary. :)

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Marc J. Nelso

Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Marc J. Nelso » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00



> Seriously, what does T/A stand for?

Trans Am...at least I'm assuming it'll be a "sim."

TSP (and company) have come along way in developing new shapes, more
so than many realize.  I've posted the .3do file that the WSC cars
will be based on, and you can download it at the following:

    ftp://ftp.simproject.com/files/wsc.zip

Keep in mind that this is a preliminary shape, and that the values
for the panels aren't in yet (in other words, if you load it into the
sim, it'll be invisible).

You can, however, view the body using Marcelo's 3do Editor (available
at the TSP site), and if you care to, convert the 3do into 3dv format
for viewing in GLView.  You can even go so far as converting the 3dv
model into raw format, and then reopen it in GLView...the car will have
color applied, and it'll be easier to understand where I'm going with
the shape.  Let me know what you guys think, as no one else has seen it
yet.

The WSC shape on the FTP site is made up of all-new vertices, rather
than simply "moving and adjusting" the vertices from another car
(stuff learned from working on the CART set).  =)

Without giving away the whole ball-o-wax, the cars will be nearly
100% new (except for the tires), and you'll be able to paint every
visible part on the car - including the dash!  Because of the size
of the finished files, those with low-end computers may have a tough
time running the sim with the set (if at all)...i.e: 486.

Been very busy...You can still access the carsets (for now) using
the ftp address above.  Between work and family, it's been tough to
squeeze any free time, but I hope to have the CART set (beta) ready
in a week or so, and a full-painted version released July 4th.

...and thanks for the comments on the new site format.  =)

Cheers!

Marc
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Future (historical) sims with GPL engine?

by Marc J. Nelso » Thu, 28 May 1998 04:00:00

I think if the TSP-WSC cars are converted over to N2, that a suitable
Can Am "feel" could be possible.  =)

Cheers!

Marc



> >Beyond GPL, we know there will be N3, and we hope there will be
> >ICR3/CART2 by Papyrus. But what else is to follow?

> I can only think of 1 thing.... CAN-AM !!!!

> Now *that* would be awsome!!
> --
> Best,
> Edwin Solheim
> ed_ on NROS

> The Paddock - a legendary site..: http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock
> Cheek Junior Team: http://home.sol.no/~solhmrek

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