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Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

G. Aldric

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by G. Aldric » Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:00:00


Lets get one thing straight right now, I have never posted
anything in public on this group that has been ***.

As for anyone getting the finger or anything that may offend,( from myself )
that is between that individual and myself. It has been resolved and I see
no need for any more bashing and slamming.

Your threats and boring posts are wasting space.
If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

I'm rather tired of this B.S.
If you want to give your opinion to
someone, please give it to someone who actually cares.
I for one do NOT.


I could go on and slam dunk this ***ER but, I won't,
he's not worth even my best efforts.

Give it a rest.

Darrel David Cher

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Darrel David Cher » Thu, 29 Jun 1995 04:00:00

: DC> And to that goof telling me I'm "justifying" not giving away my
: DC> setups, I'm not justifying anything; the question was posed, "Hey
: DC> why don't you give us your setups", and I gave a clear, strong
: DC> supported answer. I can care less if you like my opinion, and it
: DC> sure as hell isn't change from your whining.

: Why so aggressive? Why all this macho posturing? If all you "fast boys"
: are sure that us novices wouldn't be able to handle your setups because
: of skill/experience/style diffrences, where's the harm? Then again why
: not just discuss the principle rather than the details of your

Again, what are you talking about? I am telling you what I did - I gave
a clear, well supported reason for why I (and basically all the record
holders) do not give away setups. The term "goof" seemed fit perfectly, I
thought, for someone who was saying I am justifying my erroneous opinion
and complains that we don't help people out when we DO, much more than
you know.
I also wanted to make crystal clear that no matter how much people
say "gimme gimme gimme, or you suck", it is not going to dissuade us
to give away complete setups.

: You know, the REALLY big people out there are the ones who can not only
: do it, but know how a bit of advice/guidance can really help a few other

Geez, for the 3rd or 4th time on this thread I'll say it again -
 WE DO HELP PEOPLE.
All of the record replays, setup and driving hints for some tracks are
at the IICC web site (http://didnt.doit.wisc.edu).

: enthusiasts too. Top riders and drivers often give instruction at race

Yes, I know, I've personally done so in motorcycle roadracing.

: schools you know! If you are THAT GOOD, are rookies like me REALLY going
: to be any threat to your apparent wonderfullness??? B-)

To answer all the questions like this, it is NOT hard for anyone to get
a really good setup, turn damage OFF, and bounce around a walled street
course (such as Toronto) to a faster time.
All IICC racers set our record times with damage ON, and weather at 75
degrees (75 deg. is a disadvantage at most tracks).

And, to inform you further, the IICC2 is currently running. Competition
in this series is EXTREME (and totally fun :)!!! For example the top
Milwaukee hotlaps are 1)182.828 2)182.661 3)182.661 4)182.430
This is damn close racing, and NOBODY is going to give out their setups
and ruin any small possible advantage they might have.

Darrel
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Darrel David Cher

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Darrel David Cher » Thu, 29 Jun 1995 04:00:00


: at the IICC web site (http://didnt.doit.wisc.edu).

oops, minor mistake here folks :)
      http://didnt.doit.wisc.edu/Peter/default.html

Darrel                                
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mdonn..

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by mdonn.. » Thu, 29 Jun 1995 04:00:00


> of skill/experience/style diffrences, where's the harm? Then again why

It's not so simple.  It might not do you any good.  

Ok, here's a guide for  you: get on the Papyrus support BBS.  Then go to
the files section.  There's a file called NCCRW.zip (I believe that what
it's called) it's a winblows wri file.  BUT it is a good guide as to what
is happening to the car and how to fix it.  

The next bit of advice is to beg/borrow/steal a copy of the Circle Track
95 Annual edition.  This has several usefull ideas in it along with a
"drive to win" section that has a few driving tips.  These are written
mostly by Don Alexander who is a very good writer and teacher.  I can't
verify his driving expertise but it will help you learn how to adjust the
car.  A talent that makes any driver better.

You just got my best advise.  Get either or preferably both items and
learn how to do it 'your way' to your satisfaction.  Me, I'm not that
good but I have become better because of those two articles.  The Don
Alexander stuff is where I found most of my speed.  The final bit is
practice.  There IS no substitute for time on the track.  At least not
after proper techniques are learned.

Mike  - still learning

If you can't go onto the track and learn something then it's time to stop
racing.

u..

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by u.. » Thu, 29 Jun 1995 04:00:00


: > Uh.... yo A**H**E,
: > you're the FU**ER who sent the PH***ING finger F**KING ascii art to
: > individuals via email who never had THE chance NOT to read it if they are
: > offended with such material.
: > GO F**K YOURSELF if you already haven't because there is a difference
: > between expressing yourself and forcing an expression on someone. I have
: > no problems with you 'expressing' yourself but use some sense and put a
: > warning. Give the recipient a chance NOT to look at it.
: >
: > For all those who found this offensive, I apologize.
: >
: > Ujjal Bansel
:  

: Lets get one thing straight right now, I have never posted
: anything in public on this group that has been ***.
:          

Uh, some people might find the word DIPSH*T ***... You posted it on
this newsgroup...

: As for anyone getting the finger or anything that may offend,( from myself )
: that is between that individual and myself. It has been resolved and I see
: no need for any more bashing and slamming.

Glad to hear that... very cool. I see no need for bashing or slamming either.

: Your threats and boring posts are wasting space.

Agreed that both yours and mine were wasting space.

: If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

I'd be glad to talk about racing sims... I'm staying.
Papyrus Nascar is very cool, IMHO.

: I'm rather tired of this B.S.
: If you want to give your opinion to
: someone, please give it to someone who actually cares.

That's why I posted it instead of emailing it directly to you.

: I for one do NOT.


: I could go on and slam dunk this ***ER but, I won't,
: he's not worth even my best efforts.
whatever.

: Give it a rest.
Consider it buried in a six foot hole.

Ujjal Bansel

David Paul Gym

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by David Paul Gym » Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:00:00



>If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

Why would we want to talk about racing Single In-line Memory Modules?

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Danny Ray Fesperm

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Danny Ray Fesperm » Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:00:00

: Ok, here's a guide for  you: get on the Papyrus support BBS.  Then go to
: the files section.  There's a file called NCCRW.zip (I believe that what
: it's called) it's a winblows wri file.  BUT it is a good guide as to what
: is happening to the car and how to fix it.  

Here's a question for you:  How do I get on the Papyrus support BBS?

Thanks
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Danny Fe***an

NASCAR Fan!  #3 Rocks!
Papyrus NASCAR Racing enthusiast!

G. Aldric

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by G. Aldric » Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:00:00




> >If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

> what's a racing SIMM - dipshit?

 A Racing Sim , you already know.
A racing SIMM is what you sometimes get when you have a shell account
with sometimes lots of Time Lag and you type way to fast and you
hit the keys to send before you proof read everything.

BTW I thought we were all over how much of a BAD person
I am for getting in a few peoples faces ?????

Are we civil now, can you let your problem rest
or are you really a dipshit ? No hard feelings
if you just want to drop the problem what ever it may be.

Peter Burk

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Peter Burk » Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:00:00



>If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

what's a racing SIMM - dipshit?
Tom Stangl

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Tom Stangl » Fri, 30 Jun 1995 04:00:00


: >If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

: what's a racing SIMM

those are them new memory chips that Papyrus had made just for
use in machines with the NASCAR game.
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nightsh..

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by nightsh.. » Sat, 01 Jul 1995 04:00:00


>  what's a racing SIMM - dipshit?

That's what I added to my computer so I could play NASCAR... :)

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Brian Fergus

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Brian Fergus » Sat, 01 Jul 1995 04:00:00




: >If you do not want to talk about RACING SIMMS then go away.

: Why would we want to talk about racing Single In-line Memory Modules?

Well, Dave, my 60ns modules beat your 70s... :-)
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Richard Madd

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Richard Madd » Sun, 02 Jul 1995 04:00:00

 -=> Quoting Danny Ray Fe***an to All <=-


 DRF> Here's a question for you:  How do I get on the Papyrus support BBS?

      617-576-7472  That's Cambridge, Mass.

                         Maddog, Owner and Driver of the #13 T-Bird
                                 Maddog Motorsports
                                 NASCAR Racing League
                                 (a perpetual backburner)

... NASCAR Racing League: 3500 lbs. of HEAVY METAL! Be there!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

Danny Rega

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by Danny Rega » Mon, 03 Jul 1995 04:00:00




> >Subject: Re: Set-ups!!What's the big deal???
> >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 00:47:51 -0400


> >>=20
> >> I just got this message in my mailbox which I think is pretty much
> >> THE most childish thing I have ever seen.  Just thought the rest
> >> of you might want to know what kind of a loser we're dealing with.
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Btw, this is the first 'finger' I have ever received!
> >> I wonder if he made that just for me, or if he always has one
> >> ready to go...just in case he doesn't like the opinions of
> >> others.... ;)
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>                                    =DC=DC=DC=DC
> >>                                   =DE=DD  =DE=DD
> >>                                   =DE    =DD
> >>                                   =DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DD
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> >>                                   =DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DD
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> >>                                   =DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DD
> >>                             _ =DC=DC=DC=DC=DE=DB=B2=B2=DB=DD=DC=DC=DC=DC
> >>                            / =DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DD=DB=DB=DB=
> >=DB=DD=DC=DC=DC
> >>                          =DC=DB =DC=DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DD=DB=
> >=DB=DB=DB=DD=DB=DB=DB=DD
> >>                         =DB=DB=DB=B2=B0=DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=B0=DB=DB=DB=DB=B0=
> >=DB=DB=DB=DB=B0=DB=DB=DB=DD
> >>                          =DB=DB=DB=B1=DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=B1=DB=DB=DB=DB=B1=DB=
> >=DB=DB=DB=B1=DB=DB=DB=DD
> >>                           =DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=B2=DB=DB=DB=DB=B2=DB=
> >=DB=DB=DB=B2=DB=DB=DB=DD
> >>                            =DF=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=
> >=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DF
> >>                              =DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=
> >=DB=DB=DB
> >>                              =DE=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=
> >=DB=DB=DD
> >>                               =DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=
> >=DB
> >>                               =DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=DB=
> >=DB
> >>                              =20
> >>=20
> >> Hey,*** head, I made it just for you, don't you feel better now.

> > If you'd like to get The " Byron " Treatment yourself, keep it=20
> > up. You won't receive any more WARNINGS
> >  =20
> > Yea...its childish so *** OFF you ejaculated ******er.

> AWWWW, Now WHAT did you have to go and ruin your own ASCII art for?
> It was really pretty the first time.

> Ralf

Why don't we all just settle down a bit
mdonn..

Set-ups!!What's the big deal???

by mdonn.. » Mon, 03 Jul 1995 04:00:00


>                          Maddog, Owner and Driver of the #13 T-Bird
>                                  Maddog Motorsports
>                                  NASCAR Racing League
>                                  (a perpetual backburner)
> ... NASCAR Racing League: 3500 lbs. of HEAVY METAL! Be there!
> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

Hey Maddog, I thought you were a subdivision of Backmarker Racing!  (This
said as I'm ducking and running!)  BTW, how do you like Dover?  So far,
I've developed one heck of a push.  I can't seem to get more than a dozen
laps done before I loose at least one tire to Mr. Wall.  This looks like
it's gonna be a long race.

Mike
#110 NRL


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