rec.autos.simulators

> This wheel kicks ass assuming you can live without Force Feedback.
> Here is my full review:

> http://www.mpog.com/reviews/hardware/controls/madcatz/andretti/

> >OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the Act
> >Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite frankly,
> >I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I looked
> >around a little more.

> >I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems to be
> >built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

> >Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really seen
> >it discussed here.

> >Thanks

> >Andrew

> I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't share my
> affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
> precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals have a nice
> heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe over
> engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately need
> socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but the
> last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed by
> opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal levers. The
> pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you lose
> the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads fixed
> that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've used.Within a
> day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap times. If it
> had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split axis
> makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in a while
> I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need split axis
> for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for split axis,
> I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good project. Oh,
> I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know if these
> are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the Andretti wheel
> is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding though ;-)

> --

> Slot
> www.slottweak.com
> Tweaks & Reviews

> > OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the Act
> > Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite frankly,
> > I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I looked
> > around a little more.

> > I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems to be
> > built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

> > Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really seen
> > it discussed here.

> > Thanks

> > Andrew

> Thanks Slot.

> What wheel/pedals setup are you using now?

> I was about to purchase the Act Labs stuff... I read through the
modification
> sections on your site - each one, in fact. This is what convinced me that
there
> may be a better setup than the Act Labs (FF or non-FF) without big-time
mods.

> Thanks,

> Andrew

> > I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't
share my
> > affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
> > precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals have a
nice
> > heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe
over
> > engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately need
> > socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but the
> > last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed by
> > opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal levers.
The
> > pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you
lose
> > the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads fixed
> > that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've
used.Within a
> > day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap times.
If it
> > had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split axis
> > makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in a
while
> > I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need split
axis
> > for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for split
axis,
> > I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good project.
Oh,
> > I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know if
these
> > are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the Andretti
wheel
> > is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding though
;-)

> > --

> > Slot
> > www.slottweak.com
> > Tweaks & Reviews

> > > OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the Act
> > > Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite
frankly,
> > > I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I
looked
> > > around a little more.

> > > I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems to be
> > > built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

> > > Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really seen
> > > it discussed here.

> > > Thanks

> > > Andrew

> Usually I switch back and forth between the Force RS and the Ferrari wheel.
> When I use the Ferrari, I use it with the RS Shifter. The Ferrari pedals are
> the best 'out of the box' pedals I've ever used as far as ease of modulation
> goes (good for GPL and NFS:PU). But my favorite pedals are the modified
> Force RS pedals especially since I strengthened and damped the brake (I'll
> finish that article some day). For the past week I've been exclusively using
> the LWFF with RS Shifter and RS pedals. Some may not believe it, but I'm
> still trying to give that wheel a fair shake. See, I got the LWFF after the
> other 2 wheels. So when I started using it all I could do is compare it's
> shortcomings with the others. But what if I had it first? I would have been
> concentrating on it's good points, and not knowing what the others are
> capable of, I may have been more willing to overlook its minor shortcomings
> and enjoyed using it more. Then when I starting using the other wheels, I
> would have still liked them better, but my attitude on the LWFF might have
> been more positive. Well, at least that's my theory.
> But again, to answer your question, usually I switch back and forth between
> the Force RS and Ferrari with RS Shifter.

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com

> > Thanks Slot.

> > What wheel/pedals setup are you using now?

> > I was about to purchase the Act Labs stuff... I read through the
> modification
> > sections on your site - each one, in fact. This is what convinced me that
> there
> > may be a better setup than the Act Labs (FF or non-FF) without big-time
> mods.

> > Thanks,

> > Andrew

> > > I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't
> share my
> > > affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
> > > precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals have a
> nice
> > > heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe
> over
> > > engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately need
> > > socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but the
> > > last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed by
> > > opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal levers.
> The
> > > pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you
> lose
> > > the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads fixed
> > > that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've
> used.Within a
> > > day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap times.
> If it
> > > had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split axis
> > > makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in a
> while
> > > I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need split
> axis
> > > for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for split
> axis,
> > > I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good project.
> Oh,
> > > I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know if
> these
> > > are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the Andretti
> wheel
> > > is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding though
> ;-)

> > > --

> > > Slot
> > > www.slottweak.com
> > > Tweaks & Reviews

> > > > OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the Act
> > > > Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite
> frankly,
> > > > I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I
> looked
> > > > around a little more.

> > > > I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems to be
> > > > built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

> > > > Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really seen
> > > > it discussed here.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Andrew

>I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't share my
>affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
>precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals have a nice
>heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe over
>engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately need
>socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but the
>last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed by
>opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal levers. The
>pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you lose
>the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads fixed
>that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've used.Within a
>day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap times. If it
>had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split axis
>makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in a while
>I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need split axis
>for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for split axis,
>I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good project. Oh,
>I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know if these
>are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the Andretti wheel
>is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding though ;-)

>--

>Slot
>www.slottweak.com
>Tweaks & Reviews

>> OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the Act
>> Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite frankly,
>> I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I looked
>> around a little more.

>> I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems to be
>> built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

>> Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really seen
>> it discussed here.

>> Thanks

>> Andrew

> I have an extra set of ANDRETTI pedals.  How's $25 sound including

> >I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't
share my
> >affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
> >precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals
have a nice
> >heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe
over
> >engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately
need
> >socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but
the
> >last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed
by
> >opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal
levers. The
> >pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you
lose
> >the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads
fixed
> >that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've
used.Within a
> >day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap
times. If it
> >had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split
axis
> >makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in
a while
> >I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need
split axis
> >for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for
split axis,
> >I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good
project. Oh,
> >I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know
if these
> >are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the
Andretti wheel
> >is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding
though ;-)

> >--

> >Slot
> >www.slottweak.com
> >Tweaks & Reviews

> >> OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the
Act
> >> Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite
frankly,
> >> I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I
looked
> >> around a little more.

> >> I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems
to be
> >> built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

> >> Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really
seen
> >> it discussed here.

> >> Thanks

> >> Andrew

> I bought the Andretti wheel last fall.  It worked with some sims, but
> not with many others.  The word online was that the drivers had a
> problem with the latest version of directx.  Their tech support was
> useless, denying there was any problem and giving the stock advice --
> make sure you have the latest drivers, reinstall, etc.  I gave up and
> bought the LWFF.  I like Mario, but if the wheel and/or its drivers
> won't work, other issues like the pedals are irrelevant.

> Dave Wilson

> > I have an extra set of ANDRETTI pedals.  How's $25 sound including

> > >I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't
> share my
> > >affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
> > >precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals
> have a nice
> > >heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe
> over
> > >engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately
> need
> > >socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but
> the
> > >last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed
> by
> > >opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal
> levers. The
> > >pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you
> lose
> > >the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads
> fixed
> > >that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've
> used.Within a
> > >day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap
> times. If it
> > >had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split
> axis
> > >makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in
> a while
> > >I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need
> split axis
> > >for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for
> split axis,
> > >I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good
> project. Oh,
> > >I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know
> if these
> > >are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the
> Andretti wheel
> > >is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding
> though ;-)

> > >--

> > >Slot
> > >www.slottweak.com
> > >Tweaks & Reviews

> > >> OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the
> Act
> > >> Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite
> frankly,
> > >> I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I
> looked
> > >> around a little more.

> > >> I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems
> to be
> > >> built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

> > >> Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really
> seen
> > >> it discussed here.

> > >> Thanks

> > >> Andrew

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

>I bought the Andretti wheel last fall.  It worked with some sims, but
>not with many others.  The word online was that the drivers had a
>problem with the latest version of directx.  Their tech support was
>useless, denying there was any problem and giving the stock advice --
>make sure you have the latest drivers, reinstall, etc.  I gave up and
>bought the LWFF.  I like Mario, but if the wheel and/or its drivers
>won't work, other issues like the pedals are irrelevant.

>Dave Wilson

>> I have an extra set of ANDRETTI pedals.  How's $25 sound including

>> >I had one for quite some time and hated to sell it. My wife doesn't
>share my
>> >affection for collecting wheels. It's sturdy, well made, pretty, and
>> >precise. The stick shifter is located in a nice spot. The pedals
>have a nice
>> >heavy base and are very well made, but are a bit of a paradox. Maybe
>over
>> >engineered. The non slip pedal surfaces worked too well. Definately
>need
>> >socks or slippery soled slippers. The pedal travel is very long, but
>the
>> >last 1/4 to 1/3 or the throw was dead travel. This was easily fixed
>by
>> >opening the base and putting a shim on the base under the pedal
>levers. The
>> >pedal pads themselves are also spring loaded  to the point where you
>lose
>> >the real pedal feel. Unhooking the springs and tightening the pads
>fixed
>> >that. All in all, one of the most enjoyable non FF wheels I've
>used.Within a
>> >day of getting it, I was knocking a second or 2 off my MTM2 lap
>times. If it
>> >had split axis pedals, I would have kept it. But driving with split
>axis
>> >makes a big difference for me, and I couldn't go back. Every once in
>a while
>> >I like to squat the car and power out of a corner, and you need
>split axis
>> >for that. If you do get it and end up using different pedals for
>split axis,
>> >I wouldn't mind buying the Andretti pedals. They'd make a good
>project. Oh,
>> >I haven't tried the non FF Act Labs RS or Logitech, so I don't know
>if these
>> >are just as good. Othewise I  would say the precision of the
>Andretti wheel
>> >is about as good as it can get. The wheel could use more padding
>though ;-)

>> >--

>> >Slot
>> >www.slottweak.com
>> >Tweaks & Reviews

>> >> OK, well, I haven't bought a wheel yet. I was about to order the
>Act
>> >> Labs wheel when I saw some complaints about the pedals - quite
>frankly,
>> >> I can see how bad pedals would kill an otherwise good wheel, so I
>looked
>> >> around a little more.

>> >> I came across (on the web) the MadCatz Andretti wheel - it seems
>to be
>> >> built really well, and with BIG PEDALS....

>> >> Anyone use this wheel or know anything about it? I haven't really
>seen
>> >> it discussed here.

>> >> Thanks

>> >> Andrew

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>Before you buy.