Anybody know when Papyrus is releasing its F1 sim which BTW is based on the
1967 Grand Prix season. It will utilise new 3D physics to accurately model
even independent suspension movements. Imagine driving around the old
Nurburgring in a powerful but gripless circa 1967 F1 racer. Talk about
four wheel drift heaven.
That should be fun. How long was the old Nurburgring? 14 miles?
Look for it around x-mas '97...An early-look may be available
around June at E3, but Papy hasn't yet decided (or confirmed)
this.
Marc
Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News - USA
I personally think it is a waste of time when Papyrus could be making a
current F1 sim that I feel people would be more interested in. IN addition,
they also could be spending time fixing all the lame bugs in N2 and making
it available several graphic accelerators other than Verite.
Eric
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I second it. I wouldn't mind seeing the old cars but at the same time the
above is more important to me to regardind N2. I won't balk at F1 either but
again it's not my 1rst choice.
If the schedule of upgrading N2 and another product doesn't collide then I
still rather see either dirt style tracks, a demo derby or ultimately a Drag
Racing game, with deep engine setup features and different drag classses. Also
keep in mind multiplayer aspects (8+ min.) where as two are racing the other 6
or so can be tweaking their final setups waiting their turn in the brackets.
Possibly make the whole drag day expierence in realtime. Where as once the
competition begins each drag has an allotted time between each. So those that
aren't racing can tweak or repair their cars but have a limited time in doing
so as well. Make it, so if there is damage during the race that it's not
magically fixed, but the player has to diagnose it and fix it, again in an
alloted normal amount of time. Drag Race Sim would be as big as Nascar IMO and
much easier on internet bandwith with less actual racing info. being generated
while the actual drag is happening.
Q.B.M.
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NOOOOOOO! THE KISS OF DEATHHHHHHHHH!
Not another X-mas job on us. :)
Q.B.M.
Awesome!!! I would absolutely *love* to have such a sim!! I don't like
the dynamics of the recent GP cars very much; too much point-and-squirt,
jam it into the corners, if it breaks loose it's gone. I'd love to
drive cars that you can pitch sideways, steer with the throttle, really
throw around. The closest I've come to this is a nice tossable setup I
have for ICR2 Long Beach, but to actually be able to drive 1967 F1 cars!
Fantastic!
I want a Lotus 49-Ford at Monaco! No, wait! A Brabham-Repco, no, a BRM
H-16 at the Nurburgring! I want to experience the *real* Silverstone -
without chicanes - Abbey, Club, Stowe, the awesome Woodcote!! An
Eagle-Weslake at the old, round-the-houses Spa!!! Brands Hatch's Dingle
Dell...Watkins Glen without the Interloop!! Ahhhhh!!!!!
I need a time-warp machine, to make Christmas come now!!
Please, please Papyrus, tell us you'll do this, really!
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Alison Hine
Either way like the last two, I am looking forward to another great sim,
hoping this one might even have the old banked tracks that F1 used to race on
at Monza (I think), at least from watching the movie Grand Prix the track
looked like a lot of fun!
Way to go Papyrus for coming up with a great idea for a sim, anyone
who watches the movie "Grand Prix" will look forward to this sim.
Cheers.
--John
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: I want a Lotus 49-Ford at Monaco! No, wait! A Brabham-Repco, no, a BRM
: H-16 at the Nurburgring! I want to experience the *real* Silverstone -
: without chicanes - Abbey, Club, Stowe, the awesome Woodcote!! An
: Eagle-Weslake at the old, round-the-houses Spa!!! Brands Hatch's Dingle
: Dell...Watkins Glen without the Interloop!! Ahhhhh!!!!!
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I think you should send your resume into Sierra. This sounds like a
wonderful pitch for the ad campaign. :-)
I was sold before, but now I want it even more!
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Bye,
LUca
On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 19:49:03 +0000, Luca Varani
>To say the truth the old banked track still exists, just a few metres
>behind the modern curve. There is another banked turn just before the first
>variant which winds back to the straight after the Ascari variant, so that
>there is a "indy circuit" in the park.
>I don't know whether they ever raced only with two straights and two
>banked turns, though.
Alan Head
Screamer 2 homepages:
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm
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I read in Boot magazine 6\97 but that cant be right slow as Papy is about
putting out theyre bugs I mean games.
Here is/was the 1967 Scedule and who won the race..
1. South African GP (Kyalami), won by Pedro Rodriguez (Cooper-Meserati)
2. Monaco GP (Monaco), won by Denny Hulme (Repco-Brabham)
3. Dutch GP (Zandvoort), won by Jim Clark (Lotus-Cosworth)
4. Belgian GP (Spa-Francorchamps), won by Dan Gurney (Eagle-Weslake)
5. French GP (Circuit Bugatti, Le Mans), won by Jack Brabham (Repco-Brabham)
6. British GP (Silverstone), won by Jim Clark (Lotus-Cosworth)
7. German GP (Nurburgring), won by Denny Hulme (Repco-Brabham)
8. Canadian GP (Mosport Park), won by Jack Brabham (Repco-Brabham)
9. Italian GP (Monza), won by John Surtees (Honda)
10. United States GP (Watkins Glen), won by Jim Clark (Lotus-Cosworth)
11. Mexican GP (Mexico City), won by Jim Clark (Lotus-Cosworth)
WWW: http://www.io.com/~taylor23
>Hopefully the release date for this promising sim will be "When it's
finished"
>and not another push it out the door before Xmas and patch it later
>like the last two xmas releases from Papy.
>Either way like the last two, I am looking forward to another great sim,
>hoping this one might even have the old banked tracks that F1 used to race on
>at Monza (I think), at least from watching the movie Grand Prix the track
>looked like a lot of fun!
Personally I really look forward to driving the old Nurburgring...
WWW: http://www.io.com/~taylor23
Yep, that's right, although I don't think that the film was supposed
to be based on any particular season, just the events from GP racing
in the early '60s. For example, the crash on the banking at the end of
the film may have been inspired by Wolfgang von Trips' fatal accident
a few years earlier, although that took place at the Parabolica I
believe. Garner's character is definitely based on Phil Hill, as he
was the one to benefit from von Trips' death. He won the championship
that year when all that von Trips had to do was finish at Monza in
that fateful race. I personally hope that Papyrus put the banking in,
and use the full Monza circuit in the sim - at least they have some
expertise in designing banking!
One thing that is bothering me is how the hell they are going to model
long tracks like the old Monza (6-8km), Spa Francorchamps (12km), and
the Nurburgring (12 miles). Surely that is going to need a fair amount
of memory or at worst loads of swapfile access?
If they can do it it will be totally awesome! I've driven it in a road
car (and as pillion on a motorcycle), and it is terrifying even at
relatively low speed. I can't begin to imagine the courage (or
stupidity) it must have taken to drive it in a zero-grip F1.
Alan Head
Screamer 2 homepages:
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm
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