This may seem like a silly question, but what was at the X where the tracks crossed? I'm assuming a tunnel or bridge....It would be silly to have traffic lights there :) As for them using the front straight twice, It might be confusing which way to go at t12, or was there pylons or some other division to the wide track?
Rick Martel
: This may seem like a silly question, but what was at the X where the tracks crossed? I'm assuming a tunnel or bridge....It would be silly to have traffic lights there :) As for them using the front straight twice, It might be confusing which way to go
at t12, or was there pylons or some other division to the wide track?
Well it was a bridge situation, with the road course dipping beneath the
banking of the oval. These can still be seen today, as the oval still
exists although it is in great disrepair.
Now, AFAIK no race was ever run merging of the two tracks, certainly not a
Grand Prix. Yes, the two shared the front straight but they were seperate
tracks. The oval was used twice for two races in the 50s, staged as a
meeting of the two worlds (United States and Europe) with the American
drivers running circles around the Europeans (sorry for the pun).
Don't concider movie melodrama as reality. When _Grand Prix_ was made, the
director thought it would be neat to include the banking. Luckily, it was
the 60s and the track hadn't deteriated that much so it could be used.
...as for a track that combines a mix of oval flavour with a road course
there actually are a few. Texas World Speedway, Daytona, New Hampshire
Int. Speedway, and Homestead in the US all have a variation on this theme.
New Hampshire and Homestead both have infields (in the case of Loudon, it
is rather small) that can be used. Not sure if Homestead's 2.21 mile
road course has been used, but Loudon often mixes sections of the oval and
infield for motorcycle races. Texas World Speedway is a copy of Michigan,
with four degrees more banking; but only about a 1/4 of the oval is used,
the front straight, before the focus shifts to the infield road course a
1.9 mile circuit. Daytona's infield increaces the circuit distance from
2.5 to 3.56 miles. So really, there is no example of the ficticious Monza
oval/road course mix...and probably won't ever be. The way cars are setup
for ovals are just downright scarey when they have to turn right.
__o
_-\<,_ Cosmo Potapoff
On Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:34:30 GMT, Richard K.B. Martel
>This may seem like a silly question, but what was at the X where the tracks crossed? I'm assuming a tunnel or bridge....It would be silly to have traffic lights there :) As for them using the front straight twice, It might be confusing which way to go at t12, or was there pylons or some other division to the wide track?
>Rick Martel
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Loudon has a very small infield (it's primarily a couple of chicanes
to keep the bikes/cars off the entire banking for safety reasons)
The road course is actually mostly in the "outfield" if you will.
(After Nascar turn 2, the wall opens up, and there is a right hander
up the hill, leading to the bowl, a tight left, and a downhill right
back onto NASCAR turn 3 area.
---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus
Homestead is used by Formula Atlantic (little league of CART) with the
infield and the oval track. Thanks a lot,
Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy in rec.autos.simulators)
[===] Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,
| ! | And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
|!| from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
|o| Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
[--I--]
v
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Jim,
Speaking of the old 1967 sim, is Watkins Glen included in the game ????
Because before the track was constructed, they're was a race (F1?) held
in Watkins Glen but in the streets of the town. I'm not sure if in 1967
the actual track (without the chicane) existed. IMHO it would be cool
to have the old Watkins Glen track in the streets. And also, is there a
place on www.papy.com were we can see the actual job of everybody at
papyrus. Don't stop your great job Jim,
Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy in rec.autos.simulators)
[===] Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,
| ! | And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
|!| from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
|o| Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
[--I--]
v
Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league)
http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/
http://www.geocities.com/area51/vault/2804/index.html
http://www.starwars.com/
Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better?
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)
Indeed that would be cool; I honestly do not know what the status of
our licensing efforts are there. I do know that the town wasn't very
big on the part time track, as a few drivers were killed there...
No; can you imagine how many headhunters would be calling us then? I
mean, our phones are already ringing regularly with recruiters trying
to hire away talent...
---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus
> Jim,
> Speaking of the old 1967 sim, is Watkins Glen included in the game ????
> Because before the track was constructed, they're was a race (F1?) held
> in Watkins Glen but in the streets of the town. I'm not sure if in 1967
> the actual track (without the chicane) existed.
God Bless,
Steve
