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Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

Al F

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Al F » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Denny Hulme won the World Championship that year, didn't he?
-Al

Richard Walk

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Richard Walk » Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:00:00



Min of 32 meg required for Nurburgring maybe?? Wouldn't bother me but I
guess that a lot would complain....

I'm just looking forward to the _weeks_ that will be required to learn
the track <g>

Cheers,
Richard

ccorpor

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by ccorpor » Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:00:00


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Somebody please rekindle me on what type of Ferrari's were running F1 back in
'67. Thanks.

Q.B.M.

Whol

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Whol » Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:00:00

A look at the Sierra web page (www.papy.com) shows the following on their
calendar:

available for holiday, 1997

Grand Prix

Could this be our game?

Wholi

Don Mullin

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Don Mullin » Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:00:00

        I would imagine they are doing both at the same time. Companies don't
just work on one project at a time.
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Steven D. Har

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Steven D. Har » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00



>> Denny Hulme won the World Championship that year, didn't he?
>> -Al

>Somebody please rekindle me on what type of Ferrari's were running F1 back in
>'67. Thanks.

>Q.B.M.

1967 was not a good year for Ferrari in F1.. They campaigned the 312/F1 that
year who's V12 engine was a little down on power compaired to the Cosworth..
Chris Amon finished forth at Monaco, Spa, Silverstone, and the Nurburgring..
The second driver, Lorenzo Bandini, lost his life at Monaco...

Steve


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ccorpor

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by ccorpor » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00

DON:

REPLY:

That's why I used IF, I didn't want to assume anything.

Q.B.M.

Rob Adl

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Rob Adl » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00

   The V12 Ferrari 312 was raced in 1967, with the 'main' driver being
the Kiwi Chris Amon. This car was raced from 1966-1969 until the 12
cylinder boxer motor was introduced in the 312B, which was a major
improvement.
   The '67 season was of course won by the late great Denis Hulme -
another Kiwi; not too bad against the awesome Scot Jim Clark in a DFV
Ford Lotus 49!!

        Rob Adlam
                New Zealand.

Daniel Desland

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Daniel Desland » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00





>>One thing that is bothering me is how the hell they are going to model
>>long tracks like the old Monza (6-8km), Spa Francorchamps (12km), and
>>the Nurburgring (12 miles). Surely that is going to need a fair amount
>>of memory or at worst loads of swapfile access?

>Min of 32 meg required for Nurburgring maybe?? Wouldn't bother me but I
>guess that a lot would complain....

>I'm just looking forward to the _weeks_ that will be required to learn
>the track <g>

>Cheers,
>Richard

I would love to see such a sims since i never saw any footage from
that era and hardly know anything about it... I would LOVE to see what
the tracks were like...man 12 miles is sure a long track...
Alan He

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Alan He » Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:00:00



>>One thing that is bothering me is how the hell they are going to model
>>long tracks like the old Monza (6-8km), Spa Francorchamps (12km), and
>>the Nurburgring (12 miles). Surely that is going to need a fair amount
>>of memory or at worst loads of swapfile access?

>Min of 32 meg required for Nurburgring maybe?? Wouldn't bother me but I
>guess that a lot would complain....

I think that by the time the game comes out (I don't believe that it
will be Christmas) 32meg will be the minimum for gameplaying, so it
shouldn't be a problem. Plus, memory is so dirt cheap at the moment
anyway.

I've read a few interviews with great drivers like Jackie Stewart and
Fangio and they reckon it is actually impossible to learn the track to
the same level as other circuits. Stewart said that he could only
remember the next couple of corners ahead and that it required a hell
of a lot more concentration than most tracks. The main problem is that
the trackside scenery is nearly always pine trees and nothing else,
meaning there are few landmarks. At leat that should be easy for Papy
to model!

Alan Head

Screamer 2 homepages:
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm
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Stuart Boo

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Stuart Boo » Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:00:00


>Min of 32 meg required for Nurburgring maybe?? Wouldn't bother me but I
>guess that a lot would complain....

>I'm just looking forward to the _weeks_ that will be required to learn
>the track <g>

...and no replay to speak of?!!!

Wouldn't bother me either. Was there a shorter version of that track
at the time? Perhaps, like the 4 and 8bit (???) car sets used in the
Rendition ICR2/NCR2 (from stuff I've read, I don't own one so correct
any mistakes please), there'll be an option of both.

Frankly I can't imagine the effort that would be required to model
that track accurately given the time it takes for the 'simple' ovals
in Nascar (again from memory of a long ago post from Mr Rick Genter).

Stuart

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ymenar

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by ymenar » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Why not Monza without any chicanes and with the double oval/road track.
I think the oval track at Monza has one of the highest banking in the
world.  If this is real, I can resist.  Just hope everybody and send
E-mail to papyrus to suggest things to them.  Thanks a lot,

Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy)

     [===]   Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,

     | ! |   And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
      |!|    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
      |o|    Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

    [--I--]      
       v  
Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league)
http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/
http://www.starwars.com/      
Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better?
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

ymenar

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by ymenar » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Here is a schema of the old Monza track
I am pretty sure at 95% that it is right.
Old Gp in Monza used the Oval and the Road track to race.
Now what we call the pits served before the track.  The track schema
starts on 1 and finish in 12.  the =====  means that the 2 tracks were
side by side.
    ____
  2/    \
  |      \
  |       \
  |        \   __7________Oval________8_____
  |         \ /                             \
  |          X                               \
  |         / \_3_________Road__________      |
   \     6 |                            \     |9
    \      \         5                4 /    /
   1 \______================================/
             12             11            10
Thanks a lot,
Hope it will be like this

Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy)

     [===]   Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,

     | ! |   And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
      |!|    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
      |o|    Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

    [--I--]      
       v  
Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league)
http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/
http://www.starwars.com/      
Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better?
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

ymenar

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by ymenar » Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> A look at the Sierra web page (www.papy.com) shows the following on their
> calendar:
> available for holiday, 1997
> Grand Prix
> Could this be our game?
> Wholi

I think you're right
Here is the address:
http://www.papy.com/news/calendar/
Cool

Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy)

     [===]   Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,

     | ! |   And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
      |!|    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
      |o|    Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

    [--I--]      
       v  
Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nien Numb in the National Star Wars League(X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter league)
http://www.dakotacom.net/~strange/
http://www.starwars.com/      
Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition,N2,Gp2,Icr2.How can my life be better?
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

Alison Hi

Papyrus 1967 F1 Sim?????

by Alison Hi » Thu, 27 Feb 1997 04:00:00




><snip>
>: I want a Lotus 49-Ford at Monaco!  No, wait!  A Brabham-Repco, no, a BRM
>: H-16 at the Nurburgring!  I want to experience the *real* Silverstone -
>: without chicanes - Abbey, Club, Stowe, the awesome Woodcote!!  An
>: Eagle-Weslake at the old, round-the-houses Spa!!!  Brands Hatch's Dingle
>: Dell...Watkins Glen without the Interloop!!  Ahhhhh!!!!!
><snip>

>I think you should send your resume into Sierra.  This sounds like a
>wonderful pitch for the ad campaign. :-)

<grin>  You really think they'd hire me?  I'd be in racer heaven!

>I was sold before, but now I want it even more!

>--
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>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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