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NR2002 Demo would be great if...

Marc Collin

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Marc Collin » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:50:32

1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
lower than low the frame rates might get

3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most NVidia
users use OpenGL)

The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when it
is set to 100%).

Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but if
they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not hesitate
to get this in Feb.

Marc

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dstruy

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by dstruy » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:02:07

Are you willing to pay $45 for this enhanced N4? I'm not.

> 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
> lower than low the frame rates might get

> 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most NVidia
> users use OpenGL)

> The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
> sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when it
> is set to 100%).

> Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but if
> they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
> OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not hesitate
> to get this in Feb.

> Marc

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> Marc Collins

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Mario Petrinovi

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Mario Petrinovi » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:05:02

        Yeah. And if they included all tracks. : )


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Stuart Becktel

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Stuart Becktel » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:40:43

I'm guessing a lot of people are, just look at the EA Sports franchise. They
have released basically the same NHL game for the last 4 years, and people
still buy it. While a lot of people are saying, "Oh...it is just N4.1, I'm
not going to pay for THAT." The sales figures will show that these same
people ARE buying the new version.
-Stuart Becktell

> Are you willing to pay $45 for this enhanced N4? I'm not.


> > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
> > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
NVidia
> > users use OpenGL)

> > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
> > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when
it
> > is set to 100%).

> > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
if
> > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
> > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
hesitate
> > to get this in Feb.

> > Marc

> > --

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Chad Roger

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Chad Roger » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:49:48

I will be first in line with my $50 and if you want to race online I would
guess that you will be there as well.  It'll be interesting to see what
happens with regard to the Sierra service for sure.

Chad


>         Yeah. And if they included all tracks. : )



> > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
> > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
> NVidia
> > users use OpenGL)

> > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
> > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when
> it
> > is set to 100%).

> > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
if
> > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
> > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
> hesitate
> > to get this in Feb.

> > Marc

> > --

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> > Marc Collins

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David G Fishe

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by David G Fishe » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:18:03

The demo would be really nice if...........it wasn't incredibally boring
NASCAR.

David G Fisher


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Thom j

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Thom j » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:24:01

Gee once we get bored we always have F1 2001 :)
You just have to get into the left only mood aka
mode & run those suckers down! I do!! hahaha



| The demo would be really nice if...........it wasn't incredibally boring
| NASCAR.
|
| David G Fisher
|


| > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model
| >
| > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
| > lower than low the frame rates might get
| >
| > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4
| >
| > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
| NVidia
| > users use OpenGL)
| >
| > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
| > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when
| it
| > is set to 100%).
| >
| > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
if
| > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
| > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
| hesitate
| > to get this in Feb.
| >
| > Marc
| >
| > --
| >
|
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| > Marc Collins

| >
| > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
| > to take effect. Reboot now?
| >
|
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| >
| >
| >
|
|

Phillip Malphrus, Jr

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:20:20

the same could be said about your post ...



> The demo would be really nice if...........it wasn't incredibally boring
> NASCAR.

> David G Fisher



> > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
> > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
> NVidia
> > users use OpenGL)

> > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
> > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when
> it
> > is set to 100%).

> > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
if
> > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
> > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
> hesitate
> > to get this in Feb.

> > Marc

> > --

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> > Marc Collins

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David G Fishe

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by David G Fishe » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:29:39

I ran the demo last night and even though I have 0 interest or admiration of
NASCAR, I had some fun.......for awhile. Then, all of a sudden, I got this
feeling like I ate too much chocolate. Going around and around in circles
does that to me. :-)

Still, just like N4, if someone loves NASCAR then I'd guess they'd love this
sim.

I did notice one odd thing that was mentioned here by someone else. I saw a
few incidents of the cars flipping over at very low speeds in a pileup.

David G Fisher


> Gee once we get bored we always have F1 2001 :)
> You just have to get into the left only mood aka
> mode & run those suckers down! I do!! hahaha



> | The demo would be really nice if...........it wasn't incredibally boring
> | NASCAR.
> |
> | David G Fisher
> |


> | > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model
> | >
> | > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how
much
> | > lower than low the frame rates might get
> | >
> | > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4
> | >
> | > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
> | NVidia
> | > users use OpenGL)
> | >
> | > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new
engine
> | > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even
when
> | it
> | > is set to 100%).
> | >
> | > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
> if
> | > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or
with
> | > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
> | hesitate
> | > to get this in Feb.
> | >
> | > Marc
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> |

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> | > Marc Collins

> | >
> | > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> | > to take effect. Reboot now?
> | >
> |

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David G Fishe

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by David G Fishe » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:34:02

My post would be really nice if it wasn't about incredibly boring NASCAR?

The demo would be nice if my post wasn't incredibly boring?

David G Fisher (who noticed how incredibly badly I spelled "incredibly" in
my first post?)



> the same could be said about your post ...



> > The demo would be really nice if...........it wasn't incredibally boring
> > NASCAR.

> > David G Fisher



> > > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how
much
> > > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
> > NVidia
> > > users use OpenGL)

> > > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new
engine
> > > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even
when
> > it
> > > is set to 100%).

> > > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
> if
> > > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or
with
> > > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
> > hesitate
> > > to get this in Feb.

> > > Marc

> > > --

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> > > Marc Collins

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Thom j

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Thom j » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 06:43:44

Nascar is certainly no brain burner for any tactician but
I just love playing a 'Redneck Nascar Racer' for awhile :)



| I ran the demo last night and even though I have 0 interest or admiration
of
| NASCAR, I had some fun.......for awhile. Then, all of a sudden, I got this
| feeling like I ate too much chocolate. Going around and around in circles
| does that to me. :-)
|
| Still, just like N4, if someone loves NASCAR then I'd guess they'd love
this
| sim.
|
| I did notice one odd thing that was mentioned here by someone else. I saw
a
| few incidents of the cars flipping over at very low speeds in a pileup.
|
| David G Fisher
|


| > Gee once we get bored we always have F1 2001 :)
| > You just have to get into the left only mood aka
| > mode & run those suckers down! I do!! hahaha
| >


| > | The demo would be really nice if...........it wasn't incredibally
boring
| > | NASCAR.
| > |
| > | David G Fisher
| > |


| > | > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model
| > | >
| > | > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how
| much
| > | > lower than low the frame rates might get
| > | >
| > | > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4
| > | >
| > | > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4
(most
| > | NVidia
| > | > users use OpenGL)
| > | >
| > | > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new
| engine
| > | > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even
| when
| > | it
| > | > is set to 100%).
| > | >
| > | > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4
but
| > if
| > | > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or
| with
| > | > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
| > | hesitate
| > | > to get this in Feb.
| > | >
| > | > Marc
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > |
| >
|
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| > | > Marc Collins

| > | >
| > | > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
| > | > to take effect. Reboot now?
| > | >
| > |
| >
|
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| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Ed Solhei

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Ed Solhei » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:48:39

Go Away!

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ed_

DGF:

jason moy

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by jason moy » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 09:28:18

If Sierra *really* wanted to follow the lead of other companies, they
could always drop the price of N2002 to $30-40 and charge us $20/month
to use their matchmaking service...

> I'm guessing a lot of people are, just look at the EA Sports franchise. They
> have released basically the same NHL game for the last 4 years, and people
> still buy it. While a lot of people are saying, "Oh...it is just N4.1, I'm
> not going to pay for THAT." The sales figures will show that these same
> people ARE buying the new version.
> -Stuart Becktell


> > Are you willing to pay $45 for this enhanced N4? I'm not.


> > > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how much
> > > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4 (most
>  NVidia
> > > users use OpenGL)

> > > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new engine
> > > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even when
>  it
> > > is set to 100%).

> > > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4 but
>  if
> > > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or with
> > > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
>  hesitate
> > > to get this in Feb.

> > > Marc

> > > --

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> > > Marc Collins

> > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> > > to take effect. Reboot now?

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Mike Grand

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by Mike Grand » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 23:34:54

Maybe you could get NASCAR to drop their royalty fees and they could sell it
to us for $20.

--
Mike Grandy
www.precision-racing.com

> If Sierra *really* wanted to follow the lead of other companies, they
> could always drop the price of N2002 to $30-40 and charge us $20/month
> to use their matchmaking service...




> > I'm guessing a lot of people are, just look at the EA Sports franchise.
They
> > have released basically the same NHL game for the last 4 years, and
people
> > still buy it. While a lot of people are saying, "Oh...it is just N4.1,
I'm
> > not going to pay for THAT." The sales figures will show that these same
> > people ARE buying the new version.
> > -Stuart Becktell


> > > Are you willing to pay $45 for this enhanced N4? I'm not.


> > > > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > > > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how
much
> > > > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > > > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > > > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4
(most
> >  NVidia
> > > > users use OpenGL)

> > > > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new
engine
> > > > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even
when
> >  it
> > > > is set to 100%).

> > > > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4
but
> >  if
> > > > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or
with
> > > > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
> >  hesitate
> > > > to get this in Feb.

> > > > Marc

> > > > --

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> > > > Marc Collins

> > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> > > > to take effect. Reboot now?

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The Other Larr

NR2002 Demo would be great if...

by The Other Larr » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:15:39

I would pay $20 a month for online racing, but NOT the current system.

I was more than happy to pay that for NROS (though most of us bought the
3-month blocks at around $13 a month).

Payment for a matchmaking system doesn't make sense.

Now, like NROS, paying for high-quality servers, a TRUE rankings system
(WON's is very weak compared to NROS) would be worth it.

One could only wish for NROS to come back.  I'm suprised that Nascar itself
hasn't shown interest in it.

-Larry


> If Sierra *really* wanted to follow the lead of other companies, they
> could always drop the price of N2002 to $30-40 and charge us $20/month
> to use their matchmaking service...




> > I'm guessing a lot of people are, just look at the EA Sports franchise.
They
> > have released basically the same NHL game for the last 4 years, and
people
> > still buy it. While a lot of people are saying, "Oh...it is just N4.1,
I'm
> > not going to pay for THAT." The sales figures will show that these same
> > people ARE buying the new version.
> > -Stuart Becktell


> > > Are you willing to pay $45 for this enhanced N4? I'm not.


> > > > 1) we could see if they have improved the damage model

> > > > 2) you could set the graphics and field options above 19 to see how
much
> > > > lower than low the frame rates might get

> > > > 3) FFB was better than the limp N3 and N4

> > > > 4) OpenGL rasterizer was included for a better comparison to N4
(most
> >  NVidia
> > > > users use OpenGL)

> > > > The improvements I can see look good, although the driver car new
engine
> > > > sound is too quiet relative to the other sounds for my liking (even
when
> >  it
> > > > is set to 100%).

> > > > Haven't tested much to gauge whether the AI are any better than N4
but
> >  if
> > > > they are, and the frame rates are improved in the final version or
with
> > > > OpenGL and if they could get decent feedback in the FFB, I will not
> >  hesitate
> > > > to get this in Feb.

> > > > Marc

> > > > --

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> > > > Marc Collins

> > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> > > > to take effect. Reboot now?

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