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NASCAR - borrrring!

Bruce Kennewel

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:59:00

Now THAT is one statement with which I thoroughly agree!
(Yes, I know you were being sarcastic but there you go!)

Bruce.

Bruce Kennewel

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:00:36

Why not, Will?
Is he sick or sumthin'?

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:03:19

Careful.......in the *past* past, there was actually (ssssh!)
o.v.e.r.t.a.k.i.n.g!

Bruce.


Ruud Dingeman

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by Ruud Dingeman » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:39:20


> Very eloquently stated, Tony.
> Much more readable than some of the hysterical responses to the original
> post.

I don't remember who said it, but he summed it up pretty nicely:

In F1 (at least in GPL) road racing, you're mainly fighting against the
road,
while in Nascar Oval racing you're mainly fighting against other racers.

'Boring' both kinds of racing might be sometimes, but neither is 'easy'
- ovalling *looks* easy but it's a - admittedly, rather limited - skill
by itself.

(Ok, I only have Nascar 4 to judge that on but from what I gather N2003
isn't more difficult than that oldie..)

Regards, Ruud

SpeedR

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by SpeedR » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:55:34

I think Nats is just trying to stir the pot here...........He gets off
to being chastized! He's fondling his wee little "Vienna" sassage as
he reads all these posts to his own ignorant post.....

For what it's worth....at least OUR Nascar boys don't have to have
traction control and auto shifting and ABS etc. just to make a lap
around the track!!
Not to mention that we have much more colorful drivers (personality
wise..)
Plus...when was the last time you saw 2 or even 3 F-1 cars go 2 or 3
laps around the track, side by side, mere inches apart going 190 MPH?
THAT takes mucho large *** to do without backing off.....

T. Wortma

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by T. Wortma » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:04:07

That's pretty low.....

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:00:36 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"


>Why not, Will?
>Is he sick or sumthin'?

>Bruce.



>> Boring? That's because Dale Earnhardt isn't able to race any more!

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:11:55

Oh......pffft!
Have another read of his post, "T"............
It's worded as is Dale is still alive, but, due to some unexplained reason,
is unable to race.

Thus the reason for my witticism.

Bruce.


Kyle Robert

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by Kyle Robert » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:46:39


Oh yes, the current state of F1. Only overtaking is either on the first lap,
which usually involves a cluster*** in the first turn or while the other
car is getting service in the pits.

Ron Ayto

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Ron Ayto » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:59:44



If you're going to argue about F1 v NASCAR, at least try to put things in
perspective.
When was the last time you saw 2 or even 3 NASCARS go 2 or 3 laps around a
"Road" circuit, side by side, mere inches apart going 190 MPH?

You're comparing apples to oranges in your above example, they are both
fruit, that's about it.. :)

I watched the NASCAR race at Sears this year (on tv) and it reminded me of
the Celebrity Challenge races they hold before the Australian GP, except i
think the celebrity race at Albert Park was more refined and closer to an
actual motor racing event than that show the NASCAR boys put on at Sears..
<G>

Cheers,
Ron

Steve Whitt

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by Steve Whitt » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:13:33

Careful Bruce...you're starting to leave yourself wide open again...:o)

Steve


> Careful.......in the *past* past, there was actually (ssssh!)
> o.v.e.r.t.a.k.i.n.g!

> Bruce.



> > Last year and in the past....  it was "Parade laps"

Steve Whitt

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by Steve Whitt » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:16:52

No just John being John.   Actually, if John didn't react that way, I
wuold've started wondering what was wrong with him :-)

Steve


> Diplomatic as ever John :)

Mar

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Mar » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:26:12


> Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring

<snip>

Nats 1 - RAS 0

Yes, I know I've just fed it, but I'm surprised at how much interest a
simplistic troll like this one got.  Nats can move on in the knowledge
of a job well done.

Regards,

Mark

Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:44:50

I was thinking the same when he said in another thread he'd [quote] 'become
a gibbering idiot' under certain circumstances (release of mods like a
[quote] 'Can-Am of the 1960's and the Trans-Am of the 1960's')...

I refrained from taking the opportunity as all possible replies might have
been offending to someone even if posted with lots of smilies in them, but
man, it _was_ a risky thing to say :-)

Achim


Jon

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by Jon » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:03:26




> > Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
> driving
> > around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have Formula
1
> > over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind of
> > racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all from
> what
> > I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> > mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> > repetitive.

> Oh yes, the current state of F1. Only overtaking is either on the first
lap,
> which usually involves a cluster*** in the first turn or while the other
> car is getting service in the pits.

No matter what the state of  F1,  it don't change the fact that stockcars
doing roundy rounds in large tracks such as Texas and Cal are painfully
boring.
I personally can at least watch the bullrings for awhile but the larger
venues..............
...............zzzzzzzzzzz. ......and the state of commercialism  nowadays
is getting
pathetic.
Cliff Roma

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Cliff Roma » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:20:28

Cars in NASCAR go side by side on road courses all of the time..    Watch
the upcoming Watkins Glen race, I can gaurantee you that you will see more
side by side racing and more passing/lead changes in that race than all of
the races in this F1 season combined




> > I think Nats is just trying to stir the pot here...........He gets off
> > to being chastized! He's fondling his wee little "Vienna" sassage as
> > he reads all these posts to his own ignorant post.....

> > For what it's worth....at least OUR Nascar boys don't have to have
> > traction control and auto shifting and ABS etc. just to make a lap
> > around the track!!
> > Not to mention that we have much more colorful drivers (personality
> > wise..)
> > Plus...when was the last time you saw 2 or even 3 F-1 cars go 2 or 3
> > laps around the track, side by side, mere inches apart going 190 MPH?
> > THAT takes mucho large *** to do without backing off.....

> If you're going to argue about F1 v NASCAR, at least try to put things in
> perspective.
> When was the last time you saw 2 or even 3 NASCARS go 2 or 3 laps around a
> "Road" circuit, side by side, mere inches apart going 190 MPH?

> You're comparing apples to oranges in your above example, they are both
> fruit, that's about it.. :)

> I watched the NASCAR race at Sears this year (on tv) and it reminded me of
> the Celebrity Challenge races they hold before the Australian GP, except i
> think the celebrity race at Albert Park was more refined and closer to an
> actual motor racing event than that show the NASCAR boys put on at Sears..
> <G>

> Cheers,
> Ron


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