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NASCAR - borrrring!

Mr Obviou

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Mr Obviou » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:33:29

Man nats , your a piece of (work)!!!

And in other news.  People in the Middle East are still mad at each
other, and the people that work on Wall Street still make more money
than the people at McDonald's.

Now to weather, we're expecting it throughout the remainder of the week.

In sports, half the teams won while the other half lost.  Also a drunken
sports star was arrested for doing something he shouldn't have.

Thank you for watching the 6 o'clock news, I'm Mr. Obvious.  Good Night.

:-)


> Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
driving
> around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have Formula 1
> over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind of
> racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all from
what
> I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> repetitive.

> Nats

> --
> Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

> "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

> Remove NOSPAM to respond please.

ymenar

NASCAR - borrrring!

by ymenar » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:26:52


> Hmm I disagree, obviously. I see plenty of passing in Formula 1

Get your facts straight.

The race average this year is 17 pass per race in total, of every car on the
track during the 2hour race.  Monaco had absolutely NO pass made.  Canada,
8.  Imola, 4.

But anyway, why the *** do we have this converstation for the 100th time
here?  They are different motorsports, watch them or shut up.

Straight -chicane... straight chicane... straight chicane.... straight slow
set of corners?

No thanks.

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NASCAR - borrrring!

by Andre G » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:50:09

Now...are you sure it wasn`t a baseball game you were watching?

I still can`t believe that someone would have the guts to come in this
newsgroup after watching a single race and state that Nascar is borring
ESPECIALLY after the 2 snoozer years we just suffered in F1!  I like both
(Nascar and F1) and both require an incredible amount of strategies,
tweakings, etc...  No wonder you people in Europe like soccer (now THAT is a
truly wimpy and borring sport!).

Andre



> Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
driving
> around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have Formula 1
> over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind of
> racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all from
what
> I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> repetitive.

> Nats

> --
> Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

> "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

> Remove NOSPAM to respond please.

redTe

NASCAR - borrrring!

by redTe » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:55:23

Why don't you stop sucking this redneck ***ers ring piece ?
Nascar has nothing to do with it. The guy, Simmons, is a total bigot. You
can't see that ?

Scott B. Husted

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Scott B. Husted » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:02:54

You could say the same thing about F1 using your flawed philosophy:

Why go to different tracks... they all just turn left and right and you end
up at the same start/finish line anyways.  They are all the same.  In Oval
racing - every track is different.   You have different banking on the
corners,  you have different transitions from the corners onto the
straights,  on superspeedways you have drafting, on short tracks you have
extreme door handle to door handle racing.

You have heat/cold strategies in oval racing too.  It greatly effects the
handling of the cars, the grip of the tires, the HP of the motors, the
amount of tape you put on the front grill effects downforce.

You have hard braking at the short tracks along with high lateral forces on
high bankings like Bristol.

You have mechanical failures in all forms of motor racing.

Unfortunately, parades are usually long and boring.

--
Scott B. Husted
ICQ# 439540
http://www.Husted.cc
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me."
- General George S. Patton


> Hmm I disagree, obviously. I see plenty of passing in Formula 1. Plus
theres
> always the first few corners of carnage. Then theres all the pit strategy.
> And the impact of the weather and in particular wet tracks. Also different
> tracks have different strategies and heat/cold conditions. Also tricky
> corners and fast areas. Hard breaking. Also mechnical failures. And the
> spinning off, high speed crashes, neat cars, interesting tracks. Its just
a
> shame they got rid of the best track - the original Hockenheim. More
tracks
> like those would be great. But perhaps Bahrain and China will help spice
> things up a little.

> I admit Formula 1 can sometimes be boring as well when Schmumi gets out in
> front and theres no stopping him. But hey its definitely better and more
> entertaining than watching cars racing around the same oval track week
after
> week. Are all the American tracks the same - ie oval? If so whats the
point
> in going to other tracks? You might as well stay on the same one.

> Im sure theres maybe more in it than I am giving credit to, but I have
> difficulty seeing it myself. At least with greyhounds the races are short!
> --
> Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

> "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

> Remove NOSPAM to respond please.


> > It's two concepts called "racing" and "passing",  The F1 Parades don't
> offer
> > those two items.

> > --
> > Scott B. Husted
> > ICQ# 439540
> > http://www.Husted.cc
> > "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
> > behind me."
> > - General George S. Patton



> > > Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
> > driving
> > > around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have
Formula
> 1
> > > over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind
of
> > > racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all
from
> > what
> > > I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> > > mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> > > repetitive.

> > > Nats

> > > --
> > > Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

> > > "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

> > > Remove NOSPAM to respond please.

redTe

NASCAR - borrrring!

by redTe » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:03:51

"You people in Europe" ? LOL.
Yes we do like our "soccer" game. It's seems to be catching on in some other
countries as well ! You never know, perhaps French Canadians may well turn
out a "soccer" team one day. (..and get the shite kicked out of them by
Outer Hebrides, or some other football super power)

Gerry Aitke

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Gerry Aitke » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:08:17


>>Feeling better, John? ;)

> Why don't you stop sucking this redneck ***ers ring piece ?
> Nascar has nothing to do with it. The guy, Simmons, is a total bigot. You
> can't see that ?

I ain't exactly John's best mate! So *** off, you northern ***! :)
redTe

NASCAR - borrrring!

by redTe » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:10:42



> >>Feeling better, John? ;)

> > Why don't you stop sucking this redneck ***ers ring piece ?
> > Nascar has nothing to do with it. The guy, Simmons, is a total bigot.
You
> > can't see that ?

> I ain't exactly John's best mate! So *** off, you northern ***! :)

lol.
Gerry Aitke

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Gerry Aitke » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:11:44


> It's two concepts called "racing" and "passing",  The F1 Parades don't offer
> those two items.

F1 consists of one parade lap followed by one parade race. :)

Gerry

Ric Seyle

NASCAR - borrrring!

by Ric Seyle » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:12:49

How do you know??? LOL
:-)


>You could say the same thing about F1 using your flawed philosophy:

>Why go to different tracks... they all just turn left and right and you end
>up at the same start/finish line anyways.  They are all the same.  In Oval
>racing - every track is different.   You have different banking on the
>corners,  you have different transitions from the corners onto the
>straights,  on superspeedways you have drafting, on short tracks you have
>extreme door handle to door handle racing.

>You have heat/cold strategies in oval racing too.  It greatly effects the
>handling of the cars, the grip of the tires, the HP of the motors, the
>amount of tape you put on the front grill effects downforce.

>You have hard braking at the short tracks along with high lateral forces on
>high bankings like Bristol.

>You have mechanical failures in all forms of motor racing.

>Unfortunately, parades are usually long and boring.

>--
>Scott B. Husted
>ICQ# 439540
>http://www.Husted.cc
>"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
>behind me."
>- General George S. Patton



>>Hmm I disagree, obviously. I see plenty of passing in Formula 1. Plus

>theres

>>always the first few corners of carnage. Then theres all the pit strategy.
>>And the impact of the weather and in particular wet tracks. Also different
>>tracks have different strategies and heat/cold conditions. Also tricky
>>corners and fast areas. Hard breaking. Also mechnical failures. And the
>>spinning off, high speed crashes, neat cars, interesting tracks. Its just

>a

>>shame they got rid of the best track - the original Hockenheim. More

>tracks

>>like those would be great. But perhaps Bahrain and China will help spice
>>things up a little.

>>I admit Formula 1 can sometimes be boring as well when Schmumi gets out in
>>front and theres no stopping him. But hey its definitely better and more
>>entertaining than watching cars racing around the same oval track week

>after

>>week. Are all the American tracks the same - ie oval? If so whats the

>point

>>in going to other tracks? You might as well stay on the same one.

>>Im sure theres maybe more in it than I am giving credit to, but I have
>>difficulty seeing it myself. At least with greyhounds the races are short!
>>--
>>Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

>>"Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

>>Remove NOSPAM to respond please.


>>>It's two concepts called "racing" and "passing",  The F1 Parades don't

>>offer

>>>those two items.

>>>--
>>>Scott B. Husted
>>>ICQ# 439540
>>>http://www.Husted.cc
>>>"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
>>>behind me."
>>>- General George S. Patton



>>>>Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -

>>>driving

>>>>around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have

>Formula

>>1

>>>>over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind

>of

>>>>racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all

>from

>>>what

>>>>I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
>>>>mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
>>>>repetitive.

>>>>Nats

>>>>--
>>>>Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

>>>>"Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

>>>>Remove NOSPAM to respond please.

--
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John Simmon

NASCAR - borrrring!

by John Simmon » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:17:25




> > > Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
> driving
> > > around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have
> Formula 1
> > > over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind
> of
> > > racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all from
> what
> > > I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> > > mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> > > repetitive.

> > Go here:

> > http://www.paddedwall.org/help

> Diplomatic as ever John :)

If shooting doesn't work, *then* try diplomacy.
John Simmon

NASCAR - borrrring!

by John Simmon » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:18:05


says...




> >>Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring - driving
> >>around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have Formula 1
> >>over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind of
> >>racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all from what
> >>I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> >>mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> >>repetitive.

> > Go here:

> > http://www.paddedwall.org/help

> Feeling better, John? ;)

Almost. :)
John Simmon

NASCAR - borrrring!

by John Simmon » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:19:25



Go here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

grub

NASCAR - borrrring!

by grub » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:22:15

That's a pretty nice worm you threw out there nats. Looks like you got a
couple of bites too.


> Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
driving
> around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have Formula 1
> over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind of
> racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all from
what
> I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
> mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
> repetitive.

> Nats

> --
> Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

> "Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

> Remove NOSPAM to respond please.


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