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Andre

Base told me.   *PFFFffft*   ;)

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Scott B. Husted
"PA-Scott"
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  How do you know??? LOL
  :-)

You could say the same thing about F1 using your flawed philosophy:

Why go to different tracks... they all just turn left and right and you end
up at the same start/finish line anyways.  They are all the same.  In Oval
racing - every track is different.   You have different banking on the
corners,  you have different transitions from the corners onto the
straights,  on superspeedways you have drafting, on short tracks you have
extreme door handle to door handle racing.

You have heat/cold strategies in oval racing too.  It greatly effects the
handling of the cars, the grip of the tires, the HP of the motors, the
amount of tape you put on the front grill effects downforce.

You have hard braking at the short tracks along with high lateral forces on
high bankings like Bristol.

You have mechanical failures in all forms of motor racing.

Unfortunately, parades are usually long and boring.

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Scott B. Husted
ICQ# 439540
http://www.Husted.cc
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me."
- General George S. Patton

  Hmm I disagree, obviously. I see plenty of passing in Formula 1. Plus
    theres
  always the first few corners of carnage. Then theres all the pit strategy.
And the impact of the weather and in particular wet tracks. Also different
tracks have different strategies and heat/cold conditions. Also tricky
corners and fast areas. Hard breaking. Also mechnical failures. And the
spinning off, high speed crashes, neat cars, interesting tracks. Its just
    a
  shame they got rid of the best track - the original Hockenheim. More
    tracks
  like those would be great. But perhaps Bahrain and China will help spice
things up a little.

I admit Formula 1 can sometimes be boring as well when Schmumi gets out in
front and theres no stopping him. But hey its definitely better and more
entertaining than watching cars racing around the same oval track week
    after
  week. Are all the American tracks the same - ie oval? If so whats the
    point
  in going to other tracks? You might as well stay on the same one.

Im sure theres maybe more in it than I am giving credit to, but I have
difficulty seeing it myself. At least with greyhounds the races are short!
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Nigel 'Nats' Stutt

"Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

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    It's two concepts called "racing" and "passing",  The F1 Parades don't
      offer
    those two items.

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Scott B. Husted
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"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me."
- General George S. Patton

      Just watched my first ever Nascar last night and god was it boring -
        driving
      around the same oval track time after time. Im sure glad we have
        Formula
  1
    over here (UK). I dont know how anyone could enjoy watching that kind
        of
  racing for more than a few minutes. Theres just no strategy at all
        from
  what
      I can see! It just seems to revolve around whos going to get the first
mechanical failure and crash, otherwise it just seems unbelieveably
repetitive.

Nats

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"Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."

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Achim

...

I take it you're talking about Eurosport's coverage of the Pepsi400 at
Daytona. Trust them not to show the bit where the race was won and lost,
though. They also missed the onboard replay where one could hear Kurt Bush's
right rear tire blow out to start "the big one", but anyway...

On Daytona and Talladega there are restrictor plates fitted to the engines
to keep the speed of the cars down (still 180mph+). This leads to very
little speed difference across the field and the cars running well within
what they're capable of doing at these tracks. It's therefore very hard to
pass anybody on sheer speed. Any progress depends on skillfull use of
slipstreaming ("the draft") and fuel strategy.

In the race, which was about as good as restrictor plate racing gets, to be
honest, some of the guys gambled on losing their track position. As lapped
cars restart on the inside you sometimes need to pass 30 odd cars to
actually get to the front after a FCY if one drops to the back of the "lead
lap" cars. If there were no more yellows, they'd be able to run to the
finish while most of the others couldn't. In the end championship leader
Matt Kenseth, who was going to have to pit for some fuel, did his utmost to
keep one of those gamblers, fellow Ford driver Greg Biffle, in front of
Bobby Labonte. An effort which was made redundant by Labonte running out of
fuel on the last lap and handing the win to Biffle. Great stuff if one's
aware of what one's watching.

So ok, granted, it does takes some getting into, but NASCAR is racing
condensed to the essence, the contest between drivers and teams. As opposed
to the outspending contest between corporations and the fabrication of
victories (last 3 or 4 Le Mans 24hrs spring to mind).

Go to nascar.com, get the TrackPass "try before you buy" and watch the clip
of the finish of the Southern 500 at Darlington this year... then come back
here and tell me *that* didn't have you on the edge of your seat. <g>

Jan.
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You can't expect to enjoy Nascar by simply watching it - you have to become
immersed in it.  Try sitting down with a six-pack of Budweiser and, if
possible, maybe even grab a old banjo and pick off a few notes just to set
the mood.  I'd even suggest going to the cupboard and getting out an old
straw hat and pulling out a piece to suck on.  Trust me, it'll seem like
you're actually there!

As I seen in a commercial about a month or two ago:
"We've been turning left all day. Can't I try a right turn?"
"Why would you want to do that?"

That sums oval racing up nicely. :)

-Will

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