rec.autos.simulators

>> I think the car models are excellent, they are all individual and
>> convey an excellent impression of the prototypes the detailing is very
>> good.

>I'm not a big fan of the car models.  They don't appear as a cohesive set,
>but a collection of parts.  I know this game is going to suck (because it's
>not GPL), but take a look at the car models for World Grand Prix by Lankhor
>(http://www.lankhor.com).  They've done a much better job of modeling.  Of
>course they have more polygons to work with because they are supporting
>hardware T&L of the GeForce cards.  The first racing game that I know of
>that will take advantage of the GeForce.

> 1. The AI - I was trying differant strengths of AI
> competitiveness and found that at any strngth above 80% they
> would rocket down the straights (faster than me) and depending
> on what strength I had set, they were much slower round the
> corners than myself.  Seems impossible to drive following
> another car like in GPL or GP2.

> 2. The Sound - ***arcade like.  The start sounds remind me of
> Pole Position or something!

> 3. The Graphics - Not too bad but how come they demand so much
> of the machine when GPL runs alot smoother at the same res and
> at least as much detail while implementing a far superior
> physics engine.

> 4. The Tracks - This really spoils it.  Parts of tracks seem to
> bear no likeness to the real things.  Especially the main
> straight at Monza.  Okay Indy is a new F1 circuit but I have
> seen races on the speedway and the game doesn't really remind me
> of the place.  The track texture/colour seems to be the same for
> all tracks?

> 5. The Physics - Not terrible, but the slides/skids etc seem to
> be a pit predictable and the same regardless of the corner.  The
> grip on the grass seems to be too great.  SCGT was better in the
> context of what it was trying to achieve.

> 6. Other things - I don't really think the car models are that
> accurate and it looks like they are being driven by children.

> I think if I was to waste money on this game (notice I don't say
> sim) I would end up getting bored within a few days and going
> back to GPL.  Within a few months I would have GP3 and within
> all probarbility would never look at F1 2000 again.  Think I
> will save my money.

> Chris

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>>>I know this game is going to suck because it's not GPL<<
>That kind of sums up this group's attitude to every other racing sim out
>there!
>Iain

> Also the AI at 70% have this slowdown so you can catch em & then speed
> up so they get ahead of you built in to the game, I have watched
> replays where at monza I was going flat tack down the long straight at
> full thr in my Maclaeren, I was in 6th gear and the car had no more to
> give, anyway I watched a Jaguar AI car in my mirror zoom up and pass
> me and head of to the distance, where I caught him up again by the
> corner.

> Next race I swapped his car for mine and boy I couldnt catch that
> Maclearen at full thr, it was like the AI have extra power when they
> need it just so they can pass you and make it a bit more intresting
> or something. Anyway anyone who buys this based on the Wearz release
> for anything other than M/P is really going to moan out load here
> about how ***the AI is in this game, My god even the AI in GP2 geive
> you a more better race than in F1 2000.

> Other than that the game looks ok, but its no Superbike 2000, now that
> game looks like magic and the AI is very smart.

> Hotdog

>I don't have the sim yet but is it possible that you had a more
>downforce setup so on straight the AI could outrun you?

>-Gregor

>> Also the AI at 70% have this slowdown so you can catch em & then speed
>> up so they get ahead of you built in to the game, I have watched
>> replays where at monza I was going flat tack down the long straight at
>> full thr in my Maclaeren, I was in 6th gear and the car had no more to
>> give, anyway I watched a Jaguar AI car in my mirror zoom up and pass
>> me and head of to the distance, where I caught him up again by the
>> corner.

> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:57:09 +0100, Gregor Veble

> >> Also the AI at 70% have this slowdown so you can catch em & then speed
> >> up so they get ahead of you built in to the game, I have watched
> >> replays where at monza I was going flat tack down the long straight at
> >> full thr in my Maclaeren, I was in 6th gear and the car had no more to
> >> give, anyway I watched a Jaguar AI car in my mirror zoom up and pass
> >> me and head of to the distance, where I caught him up again by the
> >> corner.

> .....

> >I don't have the sim yet but is it possible that you had a more
> >downforce setup so on straight the AI could outrun you?

> >-Gregor

> I don't have it either, but several people have reported that
> "increasing the level of the AI" results in higher speeds on the
> straights, while cornering speeds remain as usual. So this presumably
> results in VERY unrealistic behaviour of the AI when you race against
> them.

> So much for the "suspension of disbelief"...

> JoH

> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:59:51 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie"

> >>>I know this game is going to suck because it's not GPL<<
> >That kind of sums up this group's attitude to every other racing sim out
> >there!
> >Iain

> Well I wont say it sucks due to GPL (allthough I like GPL) but this
> game sucks in the Myth release because the AI in the game is real ***
> they dont even race proper lines in there cars, they dont know how to
> use there brakes and where to use them, they are really just pure
> crap.

> Every race I have had so far at least 3-4 drivers have gone out in the
> first lap and then another 2 by the 3rd or 4th lap. They have some
> sort of promblem with there cars wobbling from side to side as if they
> have wonkey wheels or something.

> Also the AI at 70% have this slowdown so you can catch em & then speed
> up so they get ahead of you built in to the game, I have watched
> replays where at monza I was going flat tack down the long straight at
> full thr in my Maclaeren, I was in 6th gear and the car had no more to
> give, anyway I watched a Jaguar AI car in my mirror zoom up and pass
> me and head of to the distance, where I caught him up again by the
> corner.