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Wonder what (if anything) is next in Papy's "Legends" series.....

ymenar

Wonder what (if anything) is next in Papy's "Legends" series.....

by ymenar » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00


Let me guess...

vroom... vroom   ...       ...  VROOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!

;)

I personally would love to see any friggin F1 season using the GPL game
engine.  Anything!  Well, anything that Gilles once raced :)  Of course we
know how pathetic Sierra wants their racing title to please the mass market
and simply don't understand the value of targeting smaller groups like
Flight simulators have been able to achieve.

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by Jeff Salzman » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00




>> How about something like the Tyrrell P-34, maybe AI sophisticated
>> enough to 'be' Gilles Villeneuve?

>No AI will ever match Gilles...

Exactly my point. my origianl comment...

How about something like the Tyrrell P-34, maybe AI sophisticated
enough to 'be' Gilles Villeneuve?

Never happen....

And it won't. Maybe cross the AI from a snowmobile-racing sim,
sprinkle a little b-group rally, and make it all F1.

Heck, it would be fun just to set it on autopilot and watch the AI
simulate Gilles.

Anybody with a tape of the Dijon race in '79 will get a case of good
quality homebrew for a copy...

And yes, you can collect at the GP of Canada this June....

J

Schlom

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by Schlom » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

Well I was counting complete sims like N1 plus the expansion pack is one.  N2

and the N3 trucks...that would be four.  Oh and NL but I was talking modern.
Now theoretically your right in that there are 8 total NASCAR related things
from Papy but thats not the way I was counting it.  So yes i can count :)  (BTW
I didnt take offense to that...just thought i would explain my thinking)

Chris

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by Skotty Flyn » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00



ROTFLMAO!!! Good one Frank!

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by Matthew B.Knutse » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00



> > Goy. Honestly. Where's the 1071 Cooper S??????
> > I want to whip your Galaxie ***around Goodwood in one!

> I also left out Austin A35's    .....:-)))

> On the other hand, if you reread my post, I said *even* a Galaxie, so
> you would have to whip my Alfa GTA ***I'm afraid.......

Muahaha, ok, some more space around you to pass at full lock with smoking
front tires John Rhodes-style. Thanks :-D

Matt

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by The Black Cat =^..^ » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 10 May 2000 09:02:09 -0700, "Brian McLernon"


>Yeah, USAC Legends, with front engine Offys!
>Circa '65 before the "British Invasion"!!

The invasion actually started in 1961 and was prominant by 1964.  But
that period, when things were in transition at the track would be very
interesting.

Besides, I want to drive a Novi...

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by The Black Cat =^..^ » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

The only suggestion I'd add to the many good ones already given would
be Can Am Legends.  Unfortunately, the McLarens would be *** if
the game was realistic, but just seeing these orange beasties in the
company of the Chaparrals and the Honker 427 Fords would be enough to
sell the game to me...

Goy Larse

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by Goy Larse » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00


> Goy, what's a Jaguar KJ?
> Is that what the XJ series was called down here?

DOH !!!

That should be XJS of course, I have those on tapes from Bathurst when
they decided they wanted to win that one.....:-)

Beers and cheers
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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

Slightly erroneous, Marc.
Certainly at the beginning of the so-called "turbo decade", when Ranault set
the ball rolling, the lag was horrific.
However, by the time the FIA in its infinite wisdom called a halt to turbo
proceedings the lag had almost disappeared.

A similar thing occurred in road-going car....the original SAAB Turbo
behaved significantly differently to current turb-assisted vehicles.

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

Oh, GOD YES!!!!
1964 - 1967.......If only we had that period to play with as "Indy Legends
Part II; The Demise of the Roadsters"!!
("Indy Legends Part I" being subtitled, naturally, "The Roadster Years"!)

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> On Wed, 10 May 2000 09:02:09 -0700, "Brian McLernon"

> >Yeah, USAC Legends, with front engine Offys!
> >Circa '65 before the "British Invasion"!!

> The invasion actually started in 1961 and was prominant by 1964.  But
> that period, when things were in transition at the track would be very
> interesting.

> Besides, I want to drive a Novi...

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

Well, on that basis, the Brabhams and Lotii would be *** in GPL.  If
so, it doesn't appear to bother too many people! :-)

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> Unfortunately, the McLarens would be *** if
> the game was realistic,

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

Okay....I wasn't being a smart-arse; I really thought that the racing XJ's
may have been known as some other designation in the US. :-)

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> > Goy, what's a Jaguar KJ?
> > Is that what the XJ series was called down here?

> DOH !!!

> That should be XJS of course, I have those on tapes from Bathurst when
> they decided they wanted to win that one.....:-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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by Goy Larse » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00



> > I also left out Austin A35's    .....:-)))

> > On the other hand, if you reread my post, I said *even* a Galaxie, so
> > you would have to whip my Alfa GTA ***I'm afraid.......

> Muahaha, ok, some more space around you to pass at full lock with smoking
> front tires John Rhodes-style. Thanks :-D

Hey, we at "The Pits" aim to please, so you're most welcome :-

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00

"Ranault"??!!
Nothing like a name-change to boost sales....perhaps Rover will change
_their_ name to "Raver"!! :-)

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> Slightly erroneous, Marc.
> Certainly at the beginning of the so-called "turbo decade", when Ranault
set
> the ball rolling, the lag was horrific.
> However, by the time the FIA in its infinite wisdom called a halt to turbo
> proceedings the lag had almost disappeared.

> A similar thing occurred in road-going car....the original SAAB Turbo
> behaved significantly differently to current turb-assisted vehicles.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------



> > Why oh why oh why do you guys want to drive turbo cars in a
sim???????????

> > The turbo cars were actually complete pigs to drive with horrific turbo
> lag.
> > How many of you hate how the BRM delivers its power? nothing, nothing,
> > nothing BANG!!    it makes the car feel heavy and unresponsive .....
that
> is
> > an 80s turbo F1 car for you.

> > Most of the drivers disliked the actual driving experience of the turbo
> cars
> > but the sheer power (1400bhp + in qualifying) made them so mind
blowingly
> > fast that there was a real thrill to them.

> > This thrill though would never translate to a sim though, so all you are
> > left with is a sim full of unweildy unresponsive cars....

> > I'd be happy to have GPL2 based in 1982 for all the reasons chris
dictated
> > ..... it was an awesome year in F1s history, with 7 different
constructors
> > winning races that year. But most importantly I could drive a sweet
> handling
> > DFV powered cars like the FW08b and run rings around your turbo cars.

> > Fortunately I think that the papy team have a good enough undestanding
of
> > race car dynamics so as not to make a GPL sequel set in the years after
> > 1982.

> > My choice? Well it has to be 1976 ... last year of the proper ring....
> > normally aspirated cars not very reliant on downforce and a 6 wheel
tyrell
> > to boot :)
> > 82 would also be great for a sequel, but please please no horrible turbo
> > only F1 sims :( 1983 - 1989 )

> > Marc Mercer

> > oh ... and any sports car legends sim from 60s, 70s or 80s would make my
> > lifetime :))))

Hena H?kk?ne

Wonder what (if anything) is next in Papy's "Legends" series.....

by Hena H?kk?ne » Fri, 12 May 2000 04:00:00


>Sports Car Legends?
>Touring Car Legends?
>Sprint Car Legends?
>Grand Prix Legends 2?
>NASCAR Legends 2?
>Dirt Track Legends?
>NASCAR Modifieds Legends?
>WOO Legends?

Naah ... my bet is a N4 exansion pack or N5 :(

Hena


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