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(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

steven fellin

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by steven fellin » Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Which foot do you GPL hotlappers out there break with?  I guess that in the
'60s
(since they still had real clutches then) most used the right foot and
heel'n'toed to
apply break & power at the same time.  But since we don't much need the
clutch
in GPL, should a beginner start learning to use left foot breaking or not?
Thomas Fo

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Thomas Fo » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:12:24 -0400, "steven fellini"


>Which foot do you GPL hotlappers out there break with?  I guess that in the
>'60s
>(since they still had real clutches then) most used the right foot and
>heel'n'toed to
>apply break & power at the same time.  But since we don't much need the
>clutch
>in GPL, should a beginner start learning to use left foot breaking or not?

I drive an automatic in real life, so whenever I sit down at the
steering wheel on my computer, my natural instinct is to use my right
foot for both accelerating and braking. It works just fine for me.
Bruce Kennewel

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Do as I did.....learn to left-foot brake until it becomes a habit that you
then transfer over to your road car.

It works.


Christer Andersso

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Christer Andersso » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

That doesn't make sense, Thomas :o). It would have made sense if you
drive a manual in real life, but an automatic leaves your left foot
free for braking???

/Christer, the logic guard ;o)


> On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:12:24 -0400, "steven fellini"

> >Which foot do you GPL hotlappers out there break with?  I guess that in the
> >'60s
> >(since they still had real clutches then) most used the right foot and
> >heel'n'toed to
> >apply break & power at the same time.  But since we don't much need the
> >clutch
> >in GPL, should a beginner start learning to use left foot breaking or not?

> I drive an automatic in real life, so whenever I sit down at the
> steering wheel on my computer, my natural instinct is to use my right
> foot for both accelerating and braking. It works just fine for me.

Borut Srebotni

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Borut Srebotni » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I drive car with manual shifting and whan i first got my T2 i put my left
foot on the brake without even thinking to brake with the right foot. I
would say it's much better to brake with left foot.

Borut


Neil Rain

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Neil Rain » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00


> I drive car with manual shifting and whan i first got my T2 i put my left
> foot on the brake without even thinking to brake with the right foot. I
> would say it's much better to brake with left foot.

Too right - there's just no way you have enough time to keep moving your
right foot from pedal to pedal, so unless you can master the heel/toe
technique used by real racing drivers you will find it very difficult to
have full control of the car.
Randy Magrud

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Randy Magrud » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I would like to point out.  Michael Schumacher RIGHT FOOT BRAKES!

Randy



>> I drive car with manual shifting and whan i first got my T2 i put my left
>> foot on the brake without even thinking to brake with the right foot. I
>> would say it's much better to brake with left foot.

>Too right - there's just no way you have enough time to keep moving your
>right foot from pedal to pedal, so unless you can master the heel/toe
>technique used by real racing drivers you will find it very difficult to
>have full control of the car.

Randy Magruder
http://members.home.com/rmagruder
Matthew Birger Knutse

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Matthew Birger Knutse » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00


> I would like to point out.  Michael Schumacher RIGHT FOOT BRAKES!

He also left-foot brakes :-)

Matt

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Graeme Nas

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Graeme Nas » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I have split-axis pedals and brake with my left foot. This helps me to
brake as IMHO it is a lot easier. It also means it's easier to apply a
slight bit of throttle under braking if the back begins to slide out.

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Mark Stah

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Mark Stah » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00

yeah, that-- and, who wants to drive an automatic in real life?  :)

but it really doesn't make sense...

drive a manual in real life, but an automatic leaves your left foot
free for braking???

steering wheel on my computer, my natural instinct is to use my right
foot for both accelerating and braking. It works just fine for me.

David Goodw

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by David Goodw » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>I would like to point out.  Michael Schumacher RIGHT FOOT BRAKES!

>Randy

Don't you mean Michael Schumacher's RIGHT LEG BREAKS?  ;)

---
David Goodwin

Eldre

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Eldre » Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:00



>I drive car with manual shifting and whan i first got my T2 i put my left
>foot on the brake without even thinking to brake with the right foot. I
>would say it's much better to brake with left foot.

>Borut

Even when I *did* have a manual shift car, I still used my right foot on the
brake...used the left on the clutch.

Eldred

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John Bod

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by John Bod » Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:25:12 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"


>Do as I did.....learn to left-foot brake until it becomes a habit that you
>then transfer over to your road car.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!  This is perhaps one of the MOST unsafe
practices I can possibly imagine behind the wheel of a moving vehicle.

My driver's ed instructor taught me many, many (did I mention many?)
years ago that you NEVER want to get into the habit of left-foot
braking.  

Why?  

Because if you're suddenly in a panic situation, what's your first
instinct?  You stiffen up, and you brace yourself -- your hands braced
against the wheel, and your feet braced against the floor (or whatever
pedal they happen to come to rest on).  If you're lucky, you get the
proper foot on the brake and in addition to panicking, you also tend
to slow down.  If the foot you usually stomp on the brake with also
happens to be the RIGHT foot, then that means that in addition to
stiffening up and bracing yourself and stepping on the brake, you're
also stepping OFF the throttle -- all of which helps you slow down and
possibly avoid whatever caused the panic in the first place.

On the other hand, if your normal, conditioned, learned instinct
(read:  Bad habit) is to brake with your LEFT foot (again:  Bad
habit), then what will probably happen is this -- your left foot will
be planted on the brake, while your right foot buries itself in the
throttle.  Let's review:  The left foot standing on the brake, the
right foot flooring the throttle.  So, in this situation, if your
intention was to stop as quickly as possible because of some panic
situation, it seems that you're probably going to have a problem --
now, instead of executing a close call panic stop, you're either going
to sideswipe that semi that just ran the red light, or run head-on
into that taxi that's going the wrong way down a one way street, or
you're going to kill that little three-year-old child that just ran
into the street chasing its ball -- ALL BECAUSE YOU GOT INTO THE BAD,
BAD HABIT OF BRAKING WITH YOUR LEFT FOOT.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Besides -- if you let yourself learn how to drive this way, then
switching over to a manual transmission is going to be nigh
impossible; you can't use the left foot to operate the clutch and
brake at the same time.

Left-footed braking belongs on the track -- not behind the wheel of a
half-ton hunk of metal on public roads where you can kill innocent
people.  

-- John Bodin
   Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine
   http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/

>It works.



>> Which foot do you GPL hotlappers out there break with?  I guess that in
>the
>> '60s
>> (since they still had real clutches then) most used the right foot and
>> heel'n'toed to
>> apply break & power at the same time.  But since we don't much need the
>> clutch
>> in GPL, should a beginner start learning to use left foot breaking or not?

John Bod

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by John Bod » Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:27:23 +0200, Christer Andersson


>That doesn't make sense, Thomas :o). It would have made sense if you
>drive a manual in real life, but an automatic leaves your left foot
>free for braking???

Please refer to my rant regarding left-foot braking in roadgoing cars
equipped with automatic transmissions.  It's a bad, bad, bad habit to
get into.

-- JB

>/Christer, the logic guard ;o)


>> On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:12:24 -0400, "steven fellini"

>> >Which foot do you GPL hotlappers out there break with?  I guess that in the
>> >'60s
>> >(since they still had real clutches then) most used the right foot and
>> >heel'n'toed to
>> >apply break & power at the same time.  But since we don't much need the
>> >clutch
>> >in GPL, should a beginner start learning to use left foot breaking or not?

>> I drive an automatic in real life, so whenever I sit down at the
>> steering wheel on my computer, my natural instinct is to use my right
>> foot for both accelerating and braking. It works just fine for me.

Randy Magrud

(GPL) right or left foot breaking?

by Randy Magrud » Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Uh, no he doesn't, unless he's in a go-kart where he has no choice.
But he'll have to probably re-learn left-foot braking when he gets
back from his injury as his right foot will undoubtedly have a
difficult time with the pressure required on the brakes.

Randy



>> I would like to point out.  Michael Schumacher RIGHT FOOT BRAKES!

>He also left-foot brakes :-)

>Matt

Randy Magruder
http://members.home.com/rmagruder

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