That is, will my performance benefit noticeably? Of course I'll have to
'relearn' my braking technique, but I assume It'll be worth it if I can add
seconds to my personal bests...
Simple Answer:
Yes
KFG
> > I'm starting to get the hang of this GPL lark; regular low 1:30s
at Monza,
> > starting to get to know Silverstone and the 'Glen, but there's
something
> > troubling me: should I be braking with my left foot?
> > That is, will my performance benefit noticeably? Of course I'll
have to
> > 'relearn' my braking technique, but I assume It'll be worth it if
I can
> add
> > seconds to my personal bests...
> Simple Answer:
> Yes
> KFG
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If I use too much brake going into a corner, a touch of throttle will
usually stop the skid if you're still going straight ahead.
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 23:05:20 GMT, "Laurence Wilmer"
>> > I'm starting to get the hang of this GPL lark; regular low 1:30s
>at Monza,
>> > starting to get to know Silverstone and the 'Glen, but there's
>something
>> > troubling me: should I be braking with my left foot?
>> > That is, will my performance benefit noticeably? Of course I'll
>have to
>> > 'relearn' my braking technique, but I assume It'll be worth it if
>I can
>> add
>> > seconds to my personal bests...
>> Simple Answer:
>> Yes
>> KFG
>Not quite so simple answer:-
>Yes, provided your throttle and brake are on split axes.
>(Mine aren't - old T2 wheel - so I have yet to understand why it seems
>to help me to keep some throttle on whilst braking!!)
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And not only for GPL.
Jerry Morelock
I also use a T2, and using both feet is only way to go.
It's a matter of response time and smoothness.
rms
even with split axis it helps to use the throttle while braking in
the following situation :
Let's say you brake too late (as usual), you throw the car into a
slide to slow you down more, but you are starting to get oversteer.
If you do it the 'right' way you release the brakes, countersteer and
stop the car, with luck you will not be 180 from the correct
direction.
If you keep the brakes (release just a little) but pu some throttle
you will see you car magically going back to the right direction. why
is that ?
Well when you oversteer (or understeer) the direction of the car (the
chassis) is not the same as the direction the car is moving (it is
going sort ot sideways), if you put the brakes on the front you lose
direction of the front and while you put power on the back wheels the
card will "self right" itself.
So for gpl the trick is especially good when you want to pass
someone, brake late, too late, start to oversteer, correct your
trajectory with the throttle, not too much otherwise you will find
yourself at the complete outside of the corner and the guy you passed
will laugh and re pass you on the inside of the exit of the corner.
Good luck
> > > I'm starting to get the hang of this GPL lark; regular low
> > > 1:30s
> at Monza,
> > > starting to get to know Silverstone and the 'Glen, but there's
> something
> > > troubling me: should I be braking with my left foot?
> > > That is, will my performance benefit noticeably? Of course I'll
> have to
> > > 'relearn' my braking technique, but I assume It'll be worth it
> > > if
> I can
> > add
> > > seconds to my personal bests...
> > Simple Answer:
> > Yes
> > KFG
> Not quite so simple answer:-
> Yes, provided your throttle and brake are on split axes.
> (Mine aren't - old T2 wheel - so I have yet to understand why it
> seems to help me to keep some throttle on whilst braking!!)
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Put simply, single axis pedals act the same as a joystick.
So when you add some gas you are taking away some brake, and
as soon as you brake you are taking away some gas.
Lol SpeedFreek
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> even with split axis it helps to use the throttle while braking in
> the following situation :
> Let's say you brake too late (as usual), you throw the car into a
> slide to slow you down more, but you are starting to get oversteer.
> If you do it the 'right' way you release the brakes, countersteer
and
> stop the car, with luck you will not be 180 from the correct
> direction.
> If you keep the brakes (release just a little) but pu some throttle
> you will see you car magically going back to the right direction.
why
> is that ?
> Well when you oversteer (or understeer) the direction of the car
(the
> chassis) is not the same as the direction the car is moving (it is
> going sort ot sideways), if you put the brakes on the front you lose
> direction of the front and while you put power on the back wheels
the
> card will "self right" itself.
> So for gpl the trick is especially good when you want to pass
> someone, brake late, too late, start to oversteer, correct your
> trajectory with the throttle, not too much otherwise you will find
> yourself at the complete outside of the corner and the guy you
passed
> will laugh and re pass you on the inside of the exit of the corner.
> Good luck
> > > > I'm starting to get the hang of this GPL lark; regular low
> > > > 1:30s
> > at Monza,
> > > > starting to get to know Silverstone and the 'Glen, but there's
> > something
> > > > troubling me: should I be braking with my left foot?
> > > > That is, will my performance benefit noticeably? Of course
I'll
> > have to
> > > > 'relearn' my braking technique, but I assume It'll be worth it
> > > > if
> > I can
> > > add
> > > > seconds to my personal bests...
> > > Simple Answer:
> > > Yes
> > > KFG
> > Not quite so simple answer:-
> > Yes, provided your throttle and brake are on split axes.
> > (Mine aren't - old T2 wheel - so I have yet to understand why it
> > seems to help me to keep some throttle on whilst braking!!)
> > --
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car racing is one of the most repetitive tasks of all, every lap,
brakign at the same place, with the same strength while turning the
wheel the same amount....
It is very impressive when you have the chane to take a ride with a
professional driver to see this, it's like a robot, doing always the
same at the same time...over and over again
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> > even with split axis it helps to use the throttle while braking
> > in the following situation :
> > Let's say you brake too late (as usual), you throw the car into a
> > slide to slow you down more, but you are starting to get
> > oversteer.
> > If you do it the 'right' way you release the brakes, countersteer
> and
> > stop the car, with luck you will not be 180 from the correct
> > direction.
> > If you keep the brakes (release just a little) but pu some
> > throttle you will see you car magically going back to the right
> > direction.
> why
> > is that ?
> > Well when you oversteer (or understeer) the direction of the car
> (the
> > chassis) is not the same as the direction the car is moving (it
> > is going sort ot sideways), if you put the brakes on the front
> > you lose direction of the front and while you put power on the
> > back wheels
> the
> > card will "self right" itself.
> > So for gpl the trick is especially good when you want to pass
> > someone, brake late, too late, start to oversteer, correct your
> > trajectory with the throttle, not too much otherwise you will
> > find yourself at the complete outside of the corner and the guy
> > you
> passed
> > will laugh and re pass you on the inside of the exit of the
> > corner.
> > Good luck
> > > > > I'm starting to get the hang of this GPL lark; regular low
> > > > > 1:30s
> > > at Monza,
> > > > > starting to get to know Silverstone and the 'Glen, but
> > > > > there's
> > > something
> > > > > troubling me: should I be braking with my left foot?
> > > > > That is, will my performance benefit noticeably? Of course
> I'll
> > > have to
> > > > > 'relearn' my braking technique, but I assume It'll be worth
> > > > > it if
> > > I can
> > > > add
> > > > > seconds to my personal bests...
> > > > Simple Answer:
> > > > Yes
> > > > KFG
> > > Not quite so simple answer:-
> > > Yes, provided your throttle and brake are on split axes.
> > > (Mine aren't - old T2 wheel - so I have yet to understand why
> > > it seems to help me to keep some throttle on whilst braking!!)
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I only started getting into the low 1:30s after learning left-foot-braking.
And of course, after splitting my brake and throttle axes. If that feature
isn't available to you, then it won't do you any good at all.
If you're already in the low 1:30's, then left-footing would only shave
tenths off your time really.
Yousuf Khan
Engine management systems with***pit-mounted adjusters.
Yousuf Khan
well, at least in truck racing the engine management system is called
a knee and is controlled by the driver's leg.
> Engine management systems with***pit-mounted adjusters.
> Yousuf Khan
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I think it's experience.
Must be about the same think like speedskaters who can do constant laptimes
(less than a tenth of a second difference for 30 sec laps) when they skate a
10000 m.
grtngs,
hgrm
