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GPL Reliability

Haqsa

GPL Reliability

by Haqsa » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 07:39:56

I am starting to feel a little more confident about my driving ability and
would like to soon join some online races.  I have started doing short AI
races to try and get a better feel for it.  One thing I am curious about is
vehicle reliability.  I already had an Eagle fail on me on the first lap of
Spa.  I have heard that the Brabham is reliable, the Lotus not, and
apparently the Eagle not.  What about the other makes?  Does this tend to be
a big factor or not?
Dave Henri

GPL Reliability

by Dave Henri » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:00:02


  The Lotus and Eagle are fragile cars.  If you are not lifting the throttle
when upshifting, then you will surely blow the engines.  The Ferrari and
Cooper are probably more reliable, but still with poor technique and
constant banging up and over the rev limit will damage any GPL engine.
  Especially with the Lotus, you'll also need to pay attention when the car
gets airborne.  If you don't lift off the gas...POOF!  Another dead motor.
Good Luck.  Take care online.  Your best defense when racing online is to
try and be smooth.  If you are NOT weaving all over through the turns, then
the others will have much more confidence in you.
Enjoy
dave henrie

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Joel A. Willstei

GPL Reliability

by Joel A. Willstei » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:17:57

       The secret to online racing is consistency.  With consistency comes
confidence in your driving abilities, and as Dave said, others will have
confidence in you. Speed comes with experience. Just drive within your
limits, watch your mirrors, and learn how to let faster cars safely past
which will happen before you need to learn how to pass slower cars.

Joel Willstein

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"If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner
till the time you brake for the next turn
, then you have enough horsepower."
Mark Donohue




> > I am starting to feel a little more confident about my driving ability
and
> > would like to soon join some online races.  I have started doing short
AI
> > races to try and get a better feel for it.  One thing I am curious about
> is
> > vehicle reliability.  I already had an Eagle fail on me on the first lap
> of
> > Spa.  I have heard that the Brabham is reliable, the Lotus not, and
> > apparently the Eagle not.  What about the other makes?  Does this tend
to
> be
> > a big factor or not?

>   The Lotus and Eagle are fragile cars.  If you are not lifting the
throttle
> when upshifting, then you will surely blow the engines.  The Ferrari and
> Cooper are probably more reliable, but still with poor technique and
> constant banging up and over the rev limit will damage any GPL engine.
>   Especially with the Lotus, you'll also need to pay attention when the
car
> gets airborne.  If you don't lift off the gas...POOF!  Another dead motor.
> Good Luck.  Take care online.  Your best defense when racing online is to
> try and be smooth.  If you are NOT weaving all over through the turns,
then
> the others will have much more confidence in you.
> Enjoy
> dave henrie

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Haqsa

GPL Reliability

by Haqsa » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:02:21

Understood, but the question that I am really trying to get answered is if
there is any significant difference in the reliability of the different
chassis.



>        The secret to online racing is consistency.  With consistency comes
> confidence in your driving abilities, and as Dave said, others will have
> confidence in you. Speed comes with experience. Just drive within your
> limits, watch your mirrors, and learn how to let faster cars safely past
> which will happen before you need to learn how to pass slower cars.

> Joel Willstein

> --

> "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a
corner
> till the time you brake for the next turn
> , then you have enough horsepower."
> Mark Donohue





> > > I am starting to feel a little more confident about my driving ability
> and
> > > would like to soon join some online races.  I have started doing short
> AI
> > > races to try and get a better feel for it.  One thing I am curious
about
> > is
> > > vehicle reliability.  I already had an Eagle fail on me on the first
lap
> > of
> > > Spa.  I have heard that the Brabham is reliable, the Lotus not, and
> > > apparently the Eagle not.  What about the other makes?  Does this tend
> to
> > be
> > > a big factor or not?

> >   The Lotus and Eagle are fragile cars.  If you are not lifting the
> throttle
> > when upshifting, then you will surely blow the engines.  The Ferrari and
> > Cooper are probably more reliable, but still with poor technique and
> > constant banging up and over the rev limit will damage any GPL engine.
> >   Especially with the Lotus, you'll also need to pay attention when the
> car
> > gets airborne.  If you don't lift off the gas...POOF!  Another dead
motor.
> > Good Luck.  Take care online.  Your best defense when racing online is
to
> > try and be smooth.  If you are NOT weaving all over through the turns,
> then
> > the others will have much more confidence in you.
> > Enjoy
> > dave henrie

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Dave Henri

GPL Reliability

by Dave Henri » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:05:28


       Yes,  I gave you two ends of the spectrum.  The Loti and Eagles blow
easily.  The Ferrari is a tank.  You should be able to figure the rest are
somewhere in the middle.
dh

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Biz

GPL Reliability

by Biz » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:13:33


> Understood, but the question that I am really trying to get answered is if
> there is any significant difference in the reliability of the different
> chassis.

Dave answered that part.  If you over rev any of them they will blow, but the Lotus and Eagle are
the most sensitive.

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Haqsa

GPL Reliability

by Haqsa » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:52:58

Okay then perhaps I have a misconception of reliability.  I thought that
there were random failures that would crop up, as in my case where the
clutch went out on the first lap of Spa at Les Combes.  But that was single
player.  Are you saying that in multiplayer that as long as you don't over
rev the engine you won't be subjected to a failure?


the Lotus and Eagle are

Haqsa

GPL Reliability

by Haqsa » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:57:29

"Ferrari is a tank" tells me what I need to know. ;o)  I can live without
the Lotus, I will sort of miss the Eagle, but the Ferrari and the Brabham
have lately been the ones I like most anyway, just from a driveability and
handling standpoint.  Sounds like I'm not likely to have a problem with
either of those.




> > Understood, but the question that I am really trying to get answered is
if
> > there is any significant difference in the reliability of the different
> > chassis.

>        Yes,  I gave you two ends of the spectrum.  The Loti and Eagles
blow
> easily.  The Ferrari is a tank.  You should be able to figure the rest are
> somewhere in the middle.
> dh

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bertr

GPL Reliability

by bertr » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:08:11

Haqsau,

I think that what they're trying to say is that there are random failures in
both online and offline play.  Those could happen to anyone, anywhere.
However, you can contribute to an engine failure by overrevving the engine
(again, both offline or online).  In those cases the Lotus and Eagle seem to be
most susceptible to failure.

Your incident on the first lap at Spa was most likely one of those random
failures....

Bert


> Okay then perhaps I have a misconception of reliability.  I thought that
> there were random failures that would crop up, as in my case where the
> clutch went out on the first lap of Spa at Les Combes.  But that was single
> player.  Are you saying that in multiplayer that as long as you don't over
> rev the engine you won't be subjected to a failure?



> > Dave answered that part.  If you over rev any of them they will blow, but
> the Lotus and Eagle are
> > the most sensitive.

> > --
> > ChrisC

> > F1 GPLRank -30.16

ymenar

GPL Reliability

by ymenar » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:36:01


>        Yes,  I gave you two ends of the spectrum.  The Loti and Eagles
blow
> easily.  The Ferrari is a tank.  You should be able to figure the rest are
> somewhere in the middle.

The Ferrari just doesn't like to be steered in a straight line.  It's will
wants to go either left, or right ;)

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Dave Henri

GPL Reliability

by Dave Henri » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:30:51

"ymenard" <.
   Heck!  I always thought it was ME!  :)
dh

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Damien Smit

GPL Reliability

by Damien Smit » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 17:04:24

Do random failures still happen in 'intermediate-long' races?

Andre Warring

GPL Reliability

by Andre Warring » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 19:46:07

On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:04:24 +1000, "Damien Smith"


>Do random failures still happen in 'intermediate-long' races?

According to Kaemmer and Cassidy there is no such thing as random
failures in GPL.

I still don't believe them :)

Andre

Steve Smit

GPL Reliability

by Steve Smit » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:43:44

Wrongo!  They're in there...and can be tuned within the AI .ini files.


> On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:04:24 +1000, "Damien Smith"

> >Do random failures still happen in 'intermediate-long' races?

> According to Kaemmer and Cassidy there is no such thing as random
> failures in GPL.

> I still don't believe them :)

> Andre

Haqsa

GPL Reliability

by Haqsa » Mon, 06 Jan 2003 02:09:16

Steve, do those settings affect multiplayer failures also?  I would think AI
settings would only affect AI drivers in single player.



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