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GPL, Lotus' reliability!

Arto Wik

GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by Arto Wik » Sun, 21 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi GPL gang,

Today I tried my first "Intermediate - Short" -AI-race in the only track I
know quite well, Monza, and it really seems to need an effort to keep
a Lotus _alive_, already in the "Advanced" damage model! My camshaft seems
to be quite fragile... :-) I only guess they made a great work in Papy in
modelling cars' unique behaviour...?

Should I start using Honda in Monza, or Brabham througout? In 67 Monza
was won in Honda by Surtees and the whole season was won by Brabham...
Only problem is that I'm so slow in Monza by either of these cars...

I guess using the "intermediate" or even the "pro" really evens the
superiority of Lotus. Any comment by you, "on-line" folks? In what
level do you set the game in on-line races?

Arto

PS I need lots and lots of practice before joining any on-line races... :-/

K.S. Br?nnic

GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by K.S. Br?nnic » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Hi GPL gang,

>Today I tried my first "Intermediate - Short" -AI-race in the only track I
>know quite well, Monza, and it really seems to need an effort to keep
>a Lotus _alive_, already in the "Advanced" damage model! My camshaft seems
>to be quite fragile... :-) I only guess they made a great work in Papy in
>modelling cars' unique behaviour...?

>Should I start using Honda in Monza, or Brabham througout? In 67 Monza
>was won in Honda by Surtees and the whole season was won by Brabham...
>Only problem is that I'm so slow in Monza by either of these cars...

>I guess using the "intermediate" or even the "pro" really evens the
>superiority of Lotus. Any comment by you, "on-line" folks? In what
>level do you set the game in on-line races?

Yes! The Lotus is a nigthmare if you push the engine too much on high revs.
Personally I find the Ferrari quite reliable.

K.S. Br?nnick

Michael Barlo

GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by Michael Barlo » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00

    To answer the original question..  Use what ever car you are most
comfortable with.  All cars will blow up if you maintain a high rpm for an
extended amount of time.  I would suggest that if you stay with the Lotus you
should put either a taller final drive in it or set each gear a tad bit
higher.  This way your rpms will be lower and odds are your engine will last
longer.  You may end up being a tad bit slower but at least you'll finish the
race in one piece.

    As far as the Ferrari..  They do tend to last longer then the Lotus.  But
don't change cars just for the reliability.  Change cars only if one of the
others feel better to you.

just my $0.02 worth
Mike Barlow



> >Hi GPL gang,

> >Today I tried my first "Intermediate - Short" -AI-race in the only track I
> >know quite well, Monza, and it really seems to need an effort to keep
> >a Lotus _alive_, already in the "Advanced" damage model! My camshaft seems
> >to be quite fragile... :-) I only guess they made a great work in Papy in
> >modelling cars' unique behaviour...?

> >Should I start using Honda in Monza, or Brabham througout? In 67 Monza
> >was won in Honda by Surtees and the whole season was won by Brabham...
> >Only problem is that I'm so slow in Monza by either of these cars...

> >I guess using the "intermediate" or even the "pro" really evens the
> >superiority of Lotus. Any comment by you, "on-line" folks? In what
> >level do you set the game in on-line races?

> Yes! The Lotus is a nigthmare if you push the engine too much on high revs.
> Personally I find the Ferrari quite reliable.

> K.S. Br?nnick

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Rober

GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by Rober » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I too find the Lotus engine made of glass.  I've manage to win a Pro Long
race at Monza the other day using it, but only after many many blowouts.

I've started to shift a bit sooner now and I DO NOT power shift anymore in a
race; only in qualifying for a hotlap.  Practice gaining time by braking a
bit later or using the best line through a corner instead of shifting
without lifting your foot from the accelerator.  You'll gain more time this
way and you'll still be in the race for the final lap.

Hope this helps.

Robert,
Hull Qubec

Mtank

GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by Mtank » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Once blew a Lotus up while warming the tires  (whilst warming the tyres for you
limeys...) at The Glen, not even one lap in!  During the '67 season you would
often find Sir Jack's Brabham stuck to the gearbox of the nearest Lotus49
during qualifing enjoying the tow.  Yeah, Honda won Monza with Surtees up after
Lotus and Brabhams fell off.  Clack pitted with a flat tire (tar for you N2
'necks) and lapped the field afterwards...um I don't remember what his final
fate in that race was.
Seems to me some of Papy's final decisions as to marque powerplant reliablitiy
and power were kind of arbitrary but overall satisfactory.
Happy Motoring
John Simmo

GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by John Simmo » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00


says...

The Lotus and the Eagle are the most delicate cars in the GPL stable.  
Seems to me like Papy modelled the reliability fiarly accurately.  In a
GP-length race at Spa, about half the AI field dropped out with problems
- all but one Lotus, all the Eagles, and at least one of each of the
other marques.  I think the AI Surtees won the race.

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GPL, Lotus' reliability!

by Graeme Nas » Wed, 24 Mar 1999 04:00:00

A while ago I decided to see what happened if I let 19 AI run a GP
length race without me. I of course just ran it on accelerated time and
I don't know if that affected the outcome but by flagfall there was just
ONE car left! It was McLaren in the Eagle.

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