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GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

Graeme Nas

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Graeme Nas » Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much
less reliable in GPL 1.1?

The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9
AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left,
and at the end of the race there were 2.
I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7
cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished!

And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm
rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car!

Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

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Graeme Nash


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Andre Warrin

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Absolutely. And I must say that driving against the AI has become much
more fun and a much better practice for online racing, with all the
accidents!

Andre

On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:57:48 +0100, Graeme Nash


>Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much
>less reliable in GPL 1.1?

>The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9
>AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left,
>and at the end of the race there were 2.
>I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7
>cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished!

>And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm
>rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car!

>Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

David L. Coo

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by David L. Coo » Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:00:00


> I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7
> cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished!

Sounds like today's Formula One races ;)

Below are stats for the 1967 GP season for the number of cars that
started and how many finished:

                  Started       Finished
South Africa        18             6
Monaco              16             6
Holland             17            10
Belgium             18            10
France              15             6
Great Britain       21            10
Germany             17             8
Canada              18            11
Italy               18             7
USA                 18             7
Mexico              19            12

See http://www.forix.com/asp/gp.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=6701&c=2 for race by
race stats.  Pretty cool stuff!

--David Cook (Cooknn on VROC)

Eldre

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Eldre » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00



>And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm
>rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car!

>Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

>--
>Cheers!
>Graeme Nash

I think you're just too GOOD! <g>

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Tim

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Tim » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00

thery are actually realistic figures graeme, in 1967 seeing over 6 cars
finish was a shock
Bruce Kennewel

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Interesting point, Graham. In fact, the demise of AI cars in real life back
in the sixties was horrendous........the attrition rate per event was very
high and reliability across all aspects of a car was ***y low!!

I've just finished reading a book on the Brabham cars and teams from the
very first BT to those used in the 1985 season.....so the book covers a good
20 years of Brabham racing. The poor reliability of not only the Brabhams
but all/any of the cars during the 1960s........suspension failures, tyre
failures, electrical glitches and engine problems of  every
nature..........stands out like a sore thumb.

Papyrus might just have got it right again! :o)


> Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much
> less reliable in GPL 1.1?

> The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9
> AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left,
> and at the end of the race there were 2.
> I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7
> cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished!

> And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm
> rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car!

> Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

> --
> Cheers!
> Graeme Nash


> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> ICQ# 11257824

Bruce Kennewel

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Should read "demise of cars......."
There wasn't too much AI around back then!! :o)


> Interesting point, Graham. In fact, the demise of AI cars in real life
back
> in the sixties was horrendous........the attrition rate per event was very
> high and reliability across all aspects of a car was ***y low!!

> I've just finished reading a book on the Brabham cars and teams from the
> very first BT to those used in the 1985 season.....so the book covers a
good
> 20 years of Brabham racing. The poor reliability of not only the Brabhams
> but all/any of the cars during the 1960s........suspension failures, tyre
> failures, electrical glitches and engine problems of  every
> nature..........stands out like a sore thumb.

> Papyrus might just have got it right again! :o)



> > Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much
> > less reliable in GPL 1.1?

> > The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9
> > AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left,
> > and at the end of the race there were 2.
> > I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7
> > cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished!

> > And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm
> > rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car!

> > Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

> > --
> > Cheers!
> > Graeme Nash


> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > ICQ# 11257824

Kirk Lan

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Kirk Lan » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I've noticed a slight increase in the failures of the player cars too - my
Brabham doesn't seem to like hard shifts as much anymore :(

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Kirk Lane


ICQ: 28171652
BRT #187

"I read dead Russian authors volumes at a time
I write everything down except what's on my mind
'Cause my greatest fear is the sucking sound
And then I know I'll never get back out"
                         -'Narcolepsy', Third Eye Blind

> Am I the only one who seems to think that the AI cars are soooo much
> less reliable in GPL 1.1?

> The other day I tried to do a Grand Prix race at Silverstone against 9
> AI cars. By the time I crashed out on lap 24, There were just 3 AI left,
> and at the end of the race there were 2.
> I then did another Grand Prix with 19 AI, and I didn't race in it. 7
> cars finished. I did the same at Kyalami and 6 finished!

> And recently I've been doing races at Monza, and in qualifying, I'm
> rarely able to do a lap without passing at least one slowing car!

> Do you think Papy made these changes or am I seeing things? :-)

> --
> Cheers!
> Graeme Nash


> http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
> ICQ# 11257824

Graeme Nas

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Graeme Nas » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Ah, Fair enough then :-)

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash


http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824

Steve Garrot

GPl 1.1 - AI car reliability?

by Steve Garrot » Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Totally off topic, but is that not one of the best CD that has come
out, ever?

SLG


>I've noticed a slight increase in the failures of the player cars too - my
>Brabham doesn't seem to like hard shifts as much anymore :(

>--
>Kirk Lane


>ICQ: 28171652
>BRT #187

>"I read dead Russian authors volumes at a time
>I write everything down except what's on my mind
>'Cause my greatest fear is the sucking sound
>And then I know I'll never get back out"
>                         -'Narcolepsy', Third Eye Blind

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)

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