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GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

Alison Hi

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Alison Hi » Sat, 02 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I've posted a news item on VROC - http://www.racesimcentral.net/
much information as I can about the premature publication of test
versions of GPL 1.2.  

I've also updated and expanded the preliminary GPL 1.2 FAQ.  Since Randy
Cassidy has already posted the GPL 1.2 readme on r.a.s, I believe it's
appropriate to publish the FAQ in anticipation of the definitive release
of GPL 1.2.  This way, at least people will be able to look forward to
all the good stuff until it arrives!

Hopefully the fixes and new features in GPL 1.2 will prove to be of such
value that the GPL community will forgive the premature publication of
test versions!

Alison



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Marty U'Re

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Marty U'Re » Mon, 04 Oct 1999 04:00:00

First I'd like to say how much I appreciate all that Alison has contributed
to the world of Grand Prix Legends. But I take strong exception to the
notion we should forgive those responsible for premature publication
(leaking?) of test versions of the fix. We should thank them for doing what
Sierra should have done long ago.

The problems created by the 1.1 patch are known to have been fixed early on.
If there is a good reason for not releasing that beta fix right away, I
would like to hear it. Companies who really care about their customer base
release beta patches before official fixes are complete all the time.

The suits at Sierra have seriously damaged the loyalty of the Grand Prix
Legends community and the reputation of Papyrus by deliberately delaying the
release of the fix. One has to wonder if that isn't the intent sinse N3 has
been released in the mean time. Not much of a reach I think for the motives
of pea brained, short sighted, bean counting suits that run companies like
Sierra.

The good work done by people like Alison Hine and Randy Cassidy is not
served by corporate decision makers who deny users the fruits of their
labors.

Marty


> I've posted a news item on VROC - http://vroc.net/ - encapsulating as
> much information as I can about the premature publication of test
> versions of GPL 1.2.

> I've also updated and expanded the preliminary GPL 1.2 FAQ.  Since Randy
> Cassidy has already posted the GPL 1.2 readme on r.a.s, I believe it's
> appropriate to publish the FAQ in anticipation of the definitive release
> of GPL 1.2.  This way, at least people will be able to look forward to
> all the good stuff until it arrives!

> Hopefully the fixes and new features in GPL 1.2 will prove to be of such
> value that the GPL community will forgive the premature publication of
> test versions!

> Alison

In2home Use

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by In2home Use » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00

here! here!
you said it bub.....
Bruce Kennewel

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00

............and also too strong!

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pjgt..

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by pjgt.. » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Alison, you know we will forgive you of *anything* oh Goddess of GPL.

8-)

*Peter*     8-)

Eldre

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Eldre » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00


>First I'd like to say how much I appreciate all that Alison has contributed
>to the world of Grand Prix Legends. But I take strong exception to the
>notion we should forgive those responsible for premature publication
>(leaking?) of test versions of the fix. We should thank them for doing what
>Sierra should have done long ago.

>The problems created by the 1.1 patch are known to have been fixed early on.
>If there is a good reason for not releasing that beta fix right away, I
>would like to hear it. Companies who really care about their customer base
>release beta patches before official fixes are complete all the time.

Isn't it also possible that there fixes to more than just the 'slo-mo' issue?
I'd rather have them fix all the bugs they can find, rather than giving us a
patch now, then 2 months later, giving us ANOTHER patch, etc.

Eldred
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Rolf Hansso

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Rolf Hansso » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00

As far as I know the beta team (incl Alison) were still testing as late as
two weeks ago.

How do you know that Sierra has deliberately delayed the release of the fix?

// Rolf


mark jeangerar

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by mark jeangerar » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Sorry to dispute you Marty but I own a few Sierra titles. (Mostly domestic,
cooking and such.) GPL is, by far, the cream of the crop when it comes to
technical support and customer relations. :-)

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Michael Barlo

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Michael Barlo » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> As far as I know the beta team (incl Alison) were still testing as late as
> two weeks ago.

> How do you know that Sierra has deliberately delayed the release of the fix?

        That's an easy one..  Because someone who has no clue said so.  hehe,
see how they jumped on the 1.2 patch and said that since sierra of
germany put it out that it was official?  
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Marty U'Re

GPL 1.2 news item on VROC

by Marty U'Re » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> As far as I know the beta team (incl Alison) were still testing as late as
> two weeks ago.

> How do you know that Sierra has deliberately delayed the release of the fix?

I know because the major problem created by the 1.1 patch (slomo / new sync
method) was known to have been fixed very soon after it's release. Yes, I've
been leaked a couple of the fixes and the problem is not only fixed but online
play is much improved over 1.0. GPL became practically unusable for many with
1.1.

My point here is that there is no good excuse for Sierra not to release that fix
as an unsupported beta, IF, they really wanted GPL customers to be happy with
the product. They can dink around with the final official fix as long as they
want to, fixing other relative minor bugs and adding whistles and bells.

Good software companies who really care about customer satisfaction don't
hesitate to get temporary fixes out when the problem is as serious as this one
is.

So why is Sierra doing this? I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt
that it isn't just stupidity...partly stupidity but not completely. My guess is
the truth of the matter lies with the effect on their sales of their major cash
cow, N3. I've heard N3 still isn't available in Europe.

Marty


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