I once rode a deer for a bit . . . ut that's not an appropriate story here.
--DK
I once rode a deer for a bit . . . ut that's not an appropriate story here.
--DK
Davey G. will probably tell you his original post was level-headed &
reasonable, but that it was then jumped on by the GPL brigade.
If you look at it, however, you will see that whereas the Colin's message
simply asked the the GPL folks give other sims a chance (Somethign with
which I agree; but which I'd also say is being done), Davey G. chimed in
with words like this:
"Supposedly they are serious ***s, but they act no different
than the 14 year old brats who use words like "rulez" and "sucks" to
describe sims."
The difference between Colin's post and David's is immense and sad.
--DK
> I like it, period. I buy most of the other sims, like them too. But for
some
> reason nothing has captured the limited time I can spend as a computer
gamee
> more than GPL. Sorry.
> And at the way you are posting here, I'm beginning to feel guilty. I
> actually feel like the ostracized person here....along with a few others,
> I'm sure.
> To me, it seems ras has been dominated by F1 2000 posts lately, so quite
> frankly, I can't see why you are letting this get to you. Let people enjoy
> it, let them talk about it. It's not your fault that they/I haven't gotten
> hooked by RC2000 or whatever.
> My comparison; No matter how much people would want me to drive a
Mercedes,
> I wouldn't. I simply don't like it. No thanks.
> (expecting flames here)
> Oh, and I'm really e***d about WSC. Looks and sounds like a dream come
> true. Why? Because that is a form of racing I really enjoy.
> (more flames expected)
> Matt
> > Yes, I'm so pissed off. I take "sim talk" that seriously.
> > If you'd like, I can show you another forum where RC has been mentioned
> > 20,000 separate times in six months. You can check sales figures of the
> two
> > sims and draw your own conclusions as to how many people in htis world
> will
> > be discussing, and playing, those two sims tomorrow.
> > David G Fisher
> > > > Same people. Same old words.
> > > > David G Fisher
> > > LOL! Are you just pissed off that the "GPL Killer" that was RC2000
> hardly
> > > gets a mention?
> > > I don't understand what you've got against folks who state their
> enjoyment
> > > of GPL. People only do it because it's a good sim. As soon as a
better
> > one
> > > appears the topics will shift. No one is blindly evangelising GPL
just
> > > because it's GPL.
> > > Mark
-- JB
> But have you tried riding a deer through Monza? It will take you a
lot of
> practice before you can get that 1:30 time :)
> > </HUMOR>
> > ;-)
> > -- JB
> > > David, please do not bring sales figures into this.
> > > If that is the only thing that counted, then we would all be
forced
> > to say
> > > that Deer Hunter is the best game out there
> > > > Yes, I'm so pissed off. I take "sim talk" that seriously.
> > > > If you'd like, I can show you another forum where RC has been
> > mentioned
> > > > 20,000 separate times in six months. You can check sales
figures of
> > the
> > > two
> > > > sims and draw your own conclusions as to how many people in htis
> > world
> > > will
> > > > be discussing, and playing, those two sims tomorrow.
> > > > David G Fisher
> > > > > > Same people. Same old words.
> > > > > > David G Fisher
> > > > > LOL! Are you just pissed off that the "GPL Killer" that was
> > RC2000
> > > hardly
> > > > > gets a mention?
> > > > > I don't understand what you've got against folks who state
their
> > > enjoyment
> > > > > of GPL. People only do it because it's a good sim. As soon
as a
> > better
> > > > one
> > > > > appears the topics will shift. No one is blindly evangelising
> > GPL just
> > > > > because it's GPL.
> > > > > Mark
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
As I come from a background governed by the "scientific method", whereby a
hypothesis can never be proven to be 100% corrent, only shown to be
supported by observations, rather than that of pure mathematics, where there
are absolute truths, I am willing to rely on the "if it feels good, it is
good" mentality. I also don't care how I get that result.
It sound like NFS:PU is a must have for me as well, my passion for old
Porsches notwithstanding. It sounds like another "looks like a duck..."
sim, with a bit of a "story" that one can get into.
Stephen
Remco
Hey, move over!
My turn....
Remco
>Well-said!
In the first snip you state that "it's just a game".
In the second snip you state that you "take 'sim talk' seriously".
I was simply curious as to how, in less than 24 hours, you can move from
treating something as a game to treating something as a sim, and seriously
to boot.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
I don't recall ever seeing his name on my list of whom to leave out of my
will; I certainly haven't beaten him to a car-parking spot that I know of
and I definitely have not crashed into him with my trolley in a crowded
supermarket aisle.
So just who did? C'mon....own up!
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
> >It's a waste of time. The same group of guys with 1,000,001 hours
invested
> >in GPL, say the same things over and over again about every new sim that
> >comes along. Supposedly they are serious ***s, but they act no
different
> >than the 14 year old brats who use words like "rulez" and "sucks" to
> >describe sims.
> >David G Fisher
> Is that the best you could come up with David? Now you're reduced to
> comparing all GPL fans on this NG to pubescent 14 year olds, just to
> show how right you must be and how wrong they must be. Dear oh dear!
> --
> Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)
> No person's opinions can be said to be
> more correct than another's, because each is
> the sole judge of his or her own experience.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
>-- JB
>> Haha
>> But have you tried riding a deer through Monza? It will take you a
>lot of
>> practice before you can get that 1:30 time :)
My biggest gripe, though, is that the AI in the "beginner" stages (when
you get to drive the really COOL '50s cars) is VERY pathetic. The
driving experience makes up for it, though, but I'd like to have a
little competition once in a while. Hopefully and AI tweak is in the
works.
Come to think of it, I just realized that the AI in NFS:PU has the
OPPOSITE problem of the AI in GPL (too slow versus too fast). Maybe EA
looked at the big complaints about GPL and took heed, perhaps. At any
rate, KUDOS to the folks responsible for the physics modeling in NFS:PU!
-- JB
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Let him explain your RC2000 physics questions instead :)
Andre
>>Nah, sometimes I even enjoy your continuing whining and complaining,
>>and reading your completely pointless posts actually can be funny
>>sometimes.
>Hmmm, I've to admit I often disagree with the way David is expressing
>himself, (he generalize too much IMO), I wouldn't say his posts are
>pointless. You even might say that David is more open minded then
>most, if only he could accept that others like to compare...
>Remco
> > Well done! Both you and your friend must be extremely talented at racing.
> > Sub 1.30 laps at Monza after just a couple of laps....
> > It's a shame, though, that you seem to be more interested in special
> graphic
> > effects than actually playing the game. What a waste of valuable talent.
> No. The difference between myself and people like you is I would never jump
> to the conclusion that the 1:28 was any indication whatsoever as to how
> talented a racer I was. It's just a game. Physics model, schmysics model.
> > Also, it is too bad that you do not have a proper modem or ISDN card. It
> > seems to me that there is something wrong with your hardware, or your ISP.
> > That is the only explanation for disconnects. Multiplayer implementation
> in
> > GPL is good, just as good as the rest of the game.
> > Jon
> Heard that before. Funny thing is, I have been racing online for three years
> now, and GPL is the only sim/game which was a problem. A huge problem. BTW,
> even Alison Hine recently commented on this newsgroup that she'd like
> Papyrus to do a GPL patch, and in it address the disconnection problems.
> David G Fisher
--
Jan Hovius
Damn. The experience would be so much better if they really made you work
for your wins in the early cars. The old 356s, even the muscular Carreras
with their novel camshafts driven off solid intermediate shafts (instead of
chains), needed a lot of work from the driver to maintain speed. If your
competition isn't up to the challenge, where's the motivation to wring
everything you can out of that little boxer motor?
Stephen
I was accused of being "pissed off" by Marc which is silly. I sarcastically
agreed with him when I said I was upset and "take sim talk seriously". I'm
as hard core about sim racing as anyone, but I have a little too much
perspective on life to get upset about this hobby.
As for Dave and his comments that I didn't pick up on your subtly, well, it
turns out he didn't pick up on mine.
David G Fisher
> In the first snip you state that "it's just a game".
> In the second snip you state that you "take 'sim talk' seriously".
> I was simply curious as to how, in less than 24 hours, you can move from
> treating something as a game to treating something as a sim, and seriously
> to boot.
> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------
> > I have no idea what you mean.