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Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

Stev

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stev » Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:09:58

I have the Radeon card but i perfer the old Voodoo 5 for GPL, can i buy a
PCI version of the Voodoo card and get the graphics back that i had before
in GPL and not have any problems with my operating system. I just want the
Voodoo 5 card for GPL and nothing else.
Thanks for any help.
Steve!
Rich

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Rich » Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:23:18

go to pricewatch.com for the voodoo 5

> I have the Radeon card but i perfer the old Voodoo 5 for GPL, can i buy a
> PCI version of the Voodoo card and get the graphics back that i had before
> in GPL and not have any problems with my operating system. I just want the
> Voodoo 5 card for GPL and nothing else.
> Thanks for any help.
> Steve!

Tim Mise

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Tim Mise » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:49:02

No more at pricewatch but you should have some luck on Ebay.

-Tim


> go to pricewatch.com for the voodoo 5


> > I have the Radeon card but i perfer the old Voodoo 5 for GPL, can i buy
a
> > PCI version of the Voodoo card and get the graphics back that i had
before
> > in GPL and not have any problems with my operating system. I just want
the
> > Voodoo 5 card for GPL and nothing else.
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Steve!

Ken MacKa

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Ken MacKa » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 03:49:49


> No more at pricewatch but you should have some luck on Ebay.

> -Tim



>>go to pricewatch.com for the voodoo 5

Errr.. I think he wants to know if he can run with the ATI card and V5 PCI
installed at the same time, not whether he can find a V5 PCI.  Tried getting a
an ATI RagePro AGP and a V4 pci to cooperate a few years ago. It would switch
cards in for 2D, do dual monitors in 2d and get tv-out on the rage pro but I
could never get GPL to use the V4 for 3D.  Now this was awhile ago with and old
BX-2 board and win98SE.  IIRC google came up with one or 2 threads were others
tried something similar and GPL would not use the the 2nd card for 3D.

I know the V5 with FSAA looks great but I'm surprised that a Radeon 9700 with
FSAA and Aniso wouldn't look almost as good?

Ken


>>>I have the Radeon card but i perfer the old Voodoo 5 for GPL, can i buy

> a

>>>PCI version of the Voodoo card and get the graphics back that i had

> before

>>>in GPL and not have any problems with my operating system. I just want

> the

>>>Voodoo 5 card for GPL and nothing else.
>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>Steve!

Stev

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stev » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 03:57:59

Ken you are right i'm looking to see if the two will work together, i know
i can buy one from Ebay. I just like the look of the Voodoo 5 better than
the ATI card but if it will not work then there's no point in getting one.
Steve!



> > No more at pricewatch but you should have some luck on Ebay.

> > -Tim



> >>go to pricewatch.com for the voodoo 5

> Errr.. I think he wants to know if he can run with the ATI card and V5 PCI
> installed at the same time, not whether he can find a V5 PCI.  Tried
getting a
> an ATI RagePro AGP and a V4 pci to cooperate a few years ago. It would
switch
> cards in for 2D, do dual monitors in 2d and get tv-out on the rage pro but
I
> could never get GPL to use the V4 for 3D.  Now this was awhile ago with
and old
> BX-2 board and win98SE.  IIRC google came up with one or 2 threads were
others
> tried something similar and GPL would not use the the 2nd card for 3D.

> I know the V5 with FSAA looks great but I'm surprised that a Radeon 9700
with
> FSAA and Aniso wouldn't look almost as good?

> Ken


> >>>I have the Radeon card but i perfer the old Voodoo 5 for GPL, can i buy

> > a

> >>>PCI version of the Voodoo card and get the graphics back that i had

> > before

> >>>in GPL and not have any problems with my operating system. I just want

> > the

> >>>Voodoo 5 card for GPL and nothing else.
> >>>Thanks for any help.
> >>>Steve!

Stephan Pasker

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stephan Pasker » Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:05:04



I think there must be a programm that let's you switch, so that your second
graphic device is used for 3D. Those programs exist since the days when the
first AGP-3D/2D-accelerators came up and you had a Voodoo Graphics or Voodoo
2 installed parallel. If I remember right it was called Glide Switcher,
wasn't it?

Stephan




> > > No more at pricewatch but you should have some luck on Ebay.

> > > -Tim



> > >>go to pricewatch.com for the voodoo 5

> > Errr.. I think he wants to know if he can run with the ATI card and V5
PCI
> > installed at the same time, not whether he can find a V5 PCI.  Tried
> getting a
> > an ATI RagePro AGP and a V4 pci to cooperate a few years ago. It would
> switch
> > cards in for 2D, do dual monitors in 2d and get tv-out on the rage pro
but
> I
> > could never get GPL to use the V4 for 3D.  Now this was awhile ago with
> and old
> > BX-2 board and win98SE.  IIRC google came up with one or 2 threads were
> others
> > tried something similar and GPL would not use the the 2nd card for 3D.

> > I know the V5 with FSAA looks great but I'm surprised that a Radeon 9700
> with
> > FSAA and Aniso wouldn't look almost as good?

> > Ken


> > >>>I have the Radeon card but i perfer the old Voodoo 5 for GPL, can i
buy

> > > a

> > >>>PCI version of the Voodoo card and get the graphics back that i had

> > > before

> > >>>in GPL and not have any problems with my operating system. I just
want

> > > the

> > >>>Voodoo 5 card for GPL and nothing else.
> > >>>Thanks for any help.
> > >>>Steve!

Goy Larse

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Goy Larse » Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:59:07




> > Ken you are right i'm looking to see if the two will work together, i know
> > i can buy one from Ebay. I just like the look of the Voodoo 5 better than
> > the ATI card but if it will not work then there's no point in getting one.
> > Steve!

> I think there must be a programm that let's you switch, so that your second
> graphic device is used for 3D. Those programs exist since the days when the
> first AGP-3D/2D-accelerators came up and you had a Voodoo Graphics or Voodoo
> 2 installed parallel. If I remember right it was called Glide Switcher,
> wasn't it?

GPL has a "glide" option in the options menu, wouldn't GPL automatically
choose the V5 if this was checked ?

I must admit that I've never actually tried running a V5 PCI next to
another full blown 2D/3D card

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Stephan Pasker

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stephan Pasker » Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:12:40





> > > Ken you are right i'm looking to see if the two will work together, i
know
> > > i can buy one from Ebay. I just like the look of the Voodoo 5 better
than
> > > the ATI card but if it will not work then there's no point in getting
one.
> > > Steve!

> > I think there must be a programm that let's you switch, so that your
second
> > graphic device is used for 3D. Those programs exist since the days when
the
> > first AGP-3D/2D-accelerators came up and you had a Voodoo Graphics or
Voodoo
> > 2 installed parallel. If I remember right it was called Glide Switcher,
> > wasn't it?

> GPL has a "glide" option in the options menu, wouldn't GPL automatically
> choose the V5 if this was checked ?

I think games always look only for the primary 3D-device set in DirectX and
in that case GPL wouldn't find a gfx-card capable of Glide.
So first you have to tell DirectX which gfx-card you want to choose for
***.

Same case here, I only have experience with AGP-3D-card+Voodoo2-addon-card,
but I think the problem is the same if you want to use Voodoo5 in PCI-slot.

Stephan

Goy Larse

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Goy Larse » Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:48:28


> I think games always look only for the primary 3D-device set in DirectX and
> in that case GPL wouldn't find a gfx-card capable of Glide.
> So first you have to tell DirectX which gfx-card you want to choose for
> ***.

That makes sense

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Stev

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stev » Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:06:02

So does everyone figure it won't work and i would just be taking
my chances.
Steve!



> > I think games always look only for the primary 3D-device set in DirectX
and
> > in that case GPL wouldn't find a gfx-card capable of Glide.
> > So first you have to tell DirectX which gfx-card you want to choose for
> > ***.

> That makes sense

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

Malc

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Malc » Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:32:08


Pretty much, yes. Technically it's do-able, but probably not worthwhile,
and PCI V5's are not that common either if you don't already have one.

When I bought my Gf4200 initially I ran it with a pair of V2's for gpl. It
didn't take me long to realise that the Gf4 would run a higher res, higher
quality filtering and larger textures than the V2's, and was still faster
in OpenGL than the V2's in GLide.

I have an AGP V5 5500 in my second PC & it runs gpl very well in GLide,
but it still doesn't look as good and I can't run gpl in a window. Your
Ati card might need a bit of tweaking to get gpl running just right, but
imo it's a better and much simpler option than running two gfx cards.

Malc.

Stev

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stev » Wed, 29 Oct 2003 02:04:48

Thanks for the help everyone.
Steve!




> > So does everyone figure it won't work and i would just be taking
> > my chances.
> > Steve!

> Pretty much, yes. Technically it's do-able, but probably not worthwhile,
> and PCI V5's are not that common either if you don't already have one.

> When I bought my Gf4200 initially I ran it with a pair of V2's for gpl. It
> didn't take me long to realise that the Gf4 would run a higher res, higher
> quality filtering and larger textures than the V2's, and was still faster
> in OpenGL than the V2's in GLide.

> I have an AGP V5 5500 in my second PC & it runs gpl very well in GLide,
> but it still doesn't look as good and I can't run gpl in a window. Your
> Ati card might need a bit of tweaking to get gpl running just right, but
> imo it's a better and much simpler option than running two gfx cards.

> Malc.

Stephan Pasker

Radeon 9700 and Voodoo 5 pci for GPL

by Stephan Pasker » Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:15:47


No problem Steve,
I just wanted to say that you should follow Malc's advice even if I am a big
Voodoo5-fanatic.
Today I would only buy a Voodoo for the sense of collecting or building a
cool oldtimer-computer.
GPL should run better with your Ati, because the GPL-patches made by
GPL-community are optimised for Direct3D I think.
Greetz
Stephan





> > > So does everyone figure it won't work and i would just be taking
> > > my chances.
> > > Steve!

> > Pretty much, yes. Technically it's do-able, but probably not worthwhile,
> > and PCI V5's are not that common either if you don't already have one.

> > When I bought my Gf4200 initially I ran it with a pair of V2's for gpl.
It
> > didn't take me long to realise that the Gf4 would run a higher res,
higher
> > quality filtering and larger textures than the V2's, and was still
faster
> > in OpenGL than the V2's in GLide.

> > I have an AGP V5 5500 in my second PC & it runs gpl very well in GLide,
> > but it still doesn't look as good and I can't run gpl in a window. Your
> > Ati card might need a bit of tweaking to get gpl running just right, but
> > imo it's a better and much simpler option than running two gfx cards.

> > Malc.


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