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Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

shpanke

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by shpanke » Sun, 04 May 2003 13:14:22

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Is that for real!?!?!?!?!?!

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Mike Beaucham

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Mike Beaucham » Sun, 04 May 2003 14:58:56

Wow.. the consoles have won. It's a sad day when the only PC game I'm
looking forward to is CMR3, which seems to be a console port to the PC,
terribly outdated with some of the most unbelievable phsyics I've seen in a
long time.

Seems like a lot of the recently good games have been out for console
exclusively, or at least for a year before a PC version is even considered.
Sure that has nothign to do with racing simulations, but it seems like
that's a dying genre anyways. Definately a niche market. I can't picture any
company coming along to do something with the scope of Gran Turismo strictly
for the PC with as much effort spent of phsyics. Seems like the LFS guys
would like to see that happen, but them alone can't do it. Whatever, I'm
rambling.

Anyways, I was playing Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec at my friends house just this
week. It's a game that you can pop in, and everyone can get into it. That's
what console games are all about. But wow.. does it look beautiful. I'd
STILL say it has the most realistic graphics. I can't pin down why... maybe
the textures and the lighting??

It's like, everything was made to look REAL. Take the car models from
GTR2002, they're definately more detailed. The skins are higher resolution,
etc. But a replay of the GT3spec viper is way more likely to be a television
broadcast of the real thing in my opinion. I just don't know why though.
Maybe because everything is so CLEAN or, artifically dirty in video games
now.. or lighting isn't done right. I have no clue..

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com


http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78431&perpage...

> Is that for real!?!?!?!?!?!

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> Best regards,

> Chad Sparks


Andrew MacPhers

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Andrew MacPhers » Sun, 04 May 2003 15:32:00



> Is that for real!?!?!?!?!?!

It'd better *not* be or I may finally be forced to buy a console!

Don't want a console... not never, *ever* <pout>. Ok, maybe if GPL2 was
console only ;o)

Andrew McP

William Bradsha

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by William Bradsha » Sun, 04 May 2003 16:18:32


> http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78431&perpage...

> Is that for real!?!?!?!?!?!

It's pretty pathetic for their competitors when it's damn hard to
distinguish between which shots are from the title, and ones of actual
cars. In fact, there's a few that I'm still not sure of. :)

Major props to 'em, because they really do deserve every penny they earn
from it.

Papy, EA, eat your heart out!

*goes off to drool some more*

-Will

ikste

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by ikste » Sun, 04 May 2003 16:46:26


http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78431&perpage...
enumber=1

Well I would have thought the R34 GTR would be well
ahead of the 350z on the track, but who knows.

They are damn nice shots though - give it the physics and
AI of GTR2002 and they might have a winner :)

iksteh
(back to sliding the 996 around indy)

Stefan Larsso

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Stefan Larsso » Sun, 04 May 2003 16:49:24


> Wow.. the consoles have won. It's a sad day when the only PC game I'm
> looking forward to is CMR3, which seems to be a console port to the PC,
> terribly outdated with some of the most unbelievable phsyics I've seen in a
> long time.

GT3 was really well engineered. I can't remember if it has ever lagged
for me in framerates. I guess that when PS3 will be released in a couple
of years we'll see a Gran Turismo with more advanced physics!

To license all the cars and model them all you'll need a vast amount of
people and money... The console market got the money... :\  And the
hardware is cheaper than a PC... And it works out of the box. The
concept is amazing when you think of it!

I've also thought about how it could look so realistic. There's
something about how the sun reflects in the tarmac, but not in
the markings in the road. (Check the ground on the super speedway
course!)  The environmental mapping of the cars varies with the
environment too. It's truly amazing indeed!  There's also some kind
of aliasing(?) and depth blurring in the replays i think. Add to that
the thermal effects on the air which is shown on e.g. the Laguna Seca
course. Due to its eye-candy I just can't stop playing the game. The
physics are realistic enough for me and I don't think I'll ever regret
that I bought a PS2 due to GT3 only! Who wants to buy an X-box when GT3
exists???

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K e v i n

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by K e v i n » Sun, 04 May 2003 19:01:00


My thought is they are car shots, not in game shots.

K e v i n

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by K e v i n » Sun, 04 May 2003 19:03:20

My thought is they are car shots, not in game shots.

What I mean is prerendered car selection screens, not in game real time
shots.
PS2 doesn't have the HP (IMO) to pull these screens off "in game".
Certainly not with many players.  We'll see though.


Steve Smit

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Steve Smit » Sun, 04 May 2003 20:31:58

GT4 will also have near-perfect online play.


http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78431&perpage...

Jan Verschuere

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 04 May 2003 20:49:50

For how many players?

Jan.
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Jan Verschuere

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 04 May 2003 20:52:41

That's just about photo realistic... got to admit I'm amazed.

Jan.
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Jason Moy

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Jason Moy » Sun, 04 May 2003 21:01:53


>http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78431&perpage...

>Is that for real!?!?!?!?!?!

Nice renders.

Jason

Joe M

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Joe M » Mon, 05 May 2003 00:15:06



>Who wants to buy an X-box when GT3 exists???

Well, without ANY AI whatsoever (hot lapping bots that run you off the
road), only 6 cars on the track, and unrealistic anti-lock brakes on all the
cars I was bored and done with GT3 in less than a month and ended up selling
my PS2 and buying an Xbox (mainly for this and the superior graphics and
sound of the Xbox).  Based on what I've read, Pro Race Driver looks to be a
better RACING experience with far more tracks and a nice size field of cars.
GT3 is simply a hot lapping game until they deliver at least 12 other cars
and some intelligent RACING AI.

I do admit the Xbox isn't the racing console it could be without a proper FF
wheel, but it has great potential with PGR2 which could be the GT3/4 killer
IF it has good online play and they finally get a clue and produce a FF
wheel.

--
Joe M.

Joe M

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by Joe M » Mon, 05 May 2003 00:17:21



>http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78431&perpage...
genumber=1

> >Is that for real!?!?!?!?!?!

> Nice renders.

Agreed.  There is NO way the PS2 does real-time in-game graphics with that
detail, lighting and AA.  Did they unlock the magic  GF4 3D chip that's been
inactive for 3 years? :)

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Joe M.

ymenar

Holy crap! Check out these new screens of Gran Turismo 4!

by ymenar » Mon, 05 May 2003 01:56:35


> Wow.. the consoles have won

Graphics smalphiscs, WHO CARES!!

The Gran Turismo series doesn't even equal the quality in physics and game
engine complexities of NASCAR RACING 3.

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