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by **niteha** » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00

>>Tell you what i'll agree to sell you a top of the range tv with all the
bells
>>and whistles, i'll take 2 years to arrive but when it does you won't want
>>to watch anything else. i'll take your cash, and give you a black and white
>>model and laugh all the way to the bank knowing you wont complain.

>Get a clue!

>Nobody made you buy this game. There was no false advertising.
>Everything that was printed on the box, was in the game. It made no
>mention of weather and networking so why do you consider the game
>incomplete without them?

>Just because you didn't bother to read the box or research your
>purchase doesn't mean Microprose scammed you.

>Besides, if you didn't like it , why didn't you take it back?

Obviuosly didn't check out there website did you.
It clearly mention Random Weather Marshalling etc etc etc.

by **Santosh Bha** » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00

> >Tell you what i'll agree to sell you a top of the range tv with all the bells
> >and whistles, i'll take 2 years to arrive but when it does you won't want
> >to watch anything else. i'll take your cash, and give you a black and white
> >model and laugh all the way to the bank knowing you wont complain.

> Get a clue!

> Nobody made you buy this game. There was no false advertising.
> Everything that was printed on the box, was in the game. It made no
> mention of weather and networking so why do you consider the game
> incomplete without them?

> Just because you didn't bother to read the box or research your
> purchase doesn't mean Microprose scammed you.

> Besides, if you didn't like it , why didn't you take it back?

NOOOO NOOOO NOOOO

They DID Falesly Advertise. Their GP2 homepage (before they
released it) said stuff about "Changing Weather patterns" and also
something about Marshalling. I'm afraid The weather doesn't change and
the Marshalling has been on par with the Weather (never changes)

If they half finsihed a product like they did with GP2 why
shouldn't they go ahead and fully complete it. I'm sure it wouldn't be
that hard for them professionals.

If Microprose don't treat this properly they will lose a lot of
trust from a lot of gamers who had faith in Miroprose, like myself.

Yes i do feel ripped off about not having those things included
in the game. The Data logger and performance charts are no real
development. People like Trevor Kellaway and others had those things made
for GP1, i'm sure Microprose only included them this time cause they
already existed. Whats more they didn't credit anyone for taking their
ideas!

Thats my two cents worth (which sometimes seems more than the way
Microprose are hadnling it)

Santosh

by **John Wallac** » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I think that's known as "exaggerating", perhaps even SEVERE
exaggerating.

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by **Richard Carls** » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00

It's no wonder MPS is on the brink of extinction. GP2 is a pretty good
sim, BUT, there is nothing wrong about questioning MPS about promises
made about a product that don't materialize when it is released. No
matter what you think about what might be the better sim, ICR2, NASCAR
or GP2, MPS support stinks!!!! I too asked for a patch disk for WC by
mail as I was modemless at the time, Nothing ever came despite 2
letters and a promise over the phone they would send a disk.
Papyrus has never failed to send a patch disk after I requested one,
and it arrived very quickly. Although the Sierra deal has, in my
opinion, watered down Papyrus' rep for good support, MPS doesn't
feel they owe customers anything after the purchase. MAY MPS die an
unly death and Geoff Crammond find a job with Papyrus so we can live
in sim heaven forever. Amen.

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by **niteha** » Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:00:00

says...

>>Tell you what i'll agree to sell you a top of the range tv with all the
bells
>>and whistles, i'll take 2 years to arrive but when it does you won't want
>>to watch anything else. i'll take your cash, and give you a black and white
>>model and laugh all the way to the bank knowing you wont complain.

>So I suppose every other racing sim on the market must be a valve model
>"John Logie Baird" special?

>GP2 is hardly the "black and white portable" of racing sims, that is
>VERY harsh.

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by **Shane Lans** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I think you miss the point. Microprose made these statements. The
biggest was it was going to be IPX network play. That is the reason I
bought it. If it is not made available to the public then it is
disapointing news to me. All the same mags do and can also get it
wrong so we just have to wait and see. You are right and you cant
please all the masses but most companys do listen to reasonable
moaning and do act if valid. After all we are the people who keep
there familys fed...

Shane Lansky

Hobart,Tasmania
Australia

by **Mitch Lazaro** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I wish that I would have known about the nocdrom crack before I bought the CD. I would
have borrowed my friends' CD, used the utility and that would be the end of it. For
those of you interested in the game, but havn't purchased it yet, go search the web
for -gp2-, follow the links untill you find the file nocdrom.zip.
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by **Chris Cavi** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

: >So far Im quite
: >unhappy with it... seems most folks feel that way.
:
: I think that's known as "exaggerating", perhaps even SEVERE
: exaggerating.

Pardon my ignorance, but what was the big news that this thread has
been going on and on about. My power has been out for several
days so I'm a bit behind in my current events.

Regards,

-Dirt-

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Insult folks on the newsgroups? That's the pot calling the kettle black,
ain't it? And where do you get your statistics that "most folks feel that
way (unsatisfied)"? The McNair-Anderson Poll or did you do quick 'phone
around the USA? How about the silent majority out there, who haven't
mentioned anything about the game?

No, I'm not satisfied 100% of the ***y time...far from it...but I don't
BUY a game and then complain like crazy about what is or isn't up to my
expectations. I find out first. With your attitude you probably buy a car
without first testing it!

If you want to complain...do so to the publishers/programmers. They're the
people who can change things, not us!

brucek

by **TOBY BRANFO** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

RG> Are you satisfied 100% of the time?

No.....but very pleased/impressed/etc by it all the same.

RG> I paid good money for GP2 and I want too be satisfied with it. So
RG> far Im quite unhappy with it... seems most folks feel that way.

I also paid good money - and am very happy with it.....as John Wallace
suggested I think your latter statement is, at best, gross exageration.

When it comes to it - sure there are always bits and bobs you can pick
over - the overall product is very fine......technically excellent, well
produced and very entertaining.

OK - it'd be nice if it had wet weather......but I can live with a damn
fine dry-conditions-only sim MUCH better than I could with a seriously-
undriveable wheels-glued-to-the-track sim like ICR2 pre-patch.....how
long did it take them to sort that???!!!

I've driven a lot of F1GP, ICR, Nascar, ICR2 and now GP2 miles - and
expect to continue this trend. NONE of them have been anywhere near
perfect, ALL have open to major criticisms if you are so-minded. But
I've enjoyed them all FOR WHAT THEY ARE.....rather than winging about
what they are not.

Enjoy???!!! B-)

Cheers!

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

STANDING OVATION, MIKE! ENCORE!
(I'm fed up with people whinging about this sim. They can't accept it for
what it is....a ***y good SIMULATION!!!!) READ MY LIPS, FOLKS......IT'S
A SIMULATION, A GAME...NOT REAL LIFE!!

brucek

by **Steve Purse** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

Tight git!

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by **David Gar** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

> >Someday you will
> >aquire
> >the knowledge to understand my statements.

> Unfortunately by that time we will all have become so tired of listening
> that we won't understand anyway.

> If you have something to say, and especially if you're trying to
> convince people of something, hurling abuse at them is usually NOT a
> good place to start - there's a hint for you. Whenever the words
> "pathetic mass between your ears" pop up, sarcasm is at a premium and
> content suffering in proportion.

> Can we keep it civil? The discussion is a valid one, but another thread
> turned into a slanging match is just a waste of time.

> Cheers!
> John

Well that is very well put John and sometimes when we are sent verbal
garbage we retaliate to
a certain extent. The fact of the matter is that I think that everyone
deserves a fair
reply but when you have to keep repeating yourself over and over
especialy with some of
the immature rantings some of these guys repost with,......well
sometimes it seems vulgarity
is the only "language" they can understand. I do agree with you.
-David G.

by **David Gar** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

> Jesus i really created a monster with this one.
> I started this thread with the vain hope that maybe just maybe people
> would band together, and do something positive, but it has just turned into
> a mass slanging match.

> Very shortly one of the gp2 web sites will have a special page where you
> can "auto email" Microprose an politely ask for the game to be addressed.
> If your happy with it then you needn't bother, but it will be there for all
> those people that feel betrayed.

> I know that this page will be used, i just hope that it will be used a LOT
> Microprose UK get 100+ Emails a day, if i can at least double that from
> Gp2 owners, then maybe they will take notice.

> But, and i'm asking nicely here, even if your 100% satisfied with Gp2
> LEND YOUR SUPPORT,

> i'll post the url for this page as soon as it is set up.

> btw Wet Weather in GP2 is possible > Set your date to March/april and race
> Silverstone :)

GOOD WORK Nitehawk! Keep up the posts. It will definetely help the
future of our hobby.
most of these guys that have spent so much money on the fastest hardware
deserve it!
I mean you dont purchase speed to run Windows!

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

What "unfinished product" are you talking about?
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