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The writer was implying that GP2 was some +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- sort of unfinished product, the +ACY-quot+ADs-black and white TV+ACY-quot+ADs- of the analogy, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- that is from where my +ACY-quot+ADs-valve model+ACY-quot+ADs- came from. Since GP2 is, IMO, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- superior to anything else on the market by now, it stands to reason that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- they must be lower than the black and white TV on the racing-sim +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- evolutionary scale. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I'd love to see your NICAM, widescreen HDTV model, but it's not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- available. GP2 poor? Compared to what? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Compared to what MP promised on the box, in their web site and +ADw-br+AD4- in all the pre-release marketing BS. Face it, MP shipped an +ADw-br+AD4- incomplete product and we have every right to expect an update. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Tel. +358-(9)0-345 5538 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- +ADw-br+AD4- -------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and does not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- necessarily reflect those of my employer+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p93+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile93+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David Gar+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content93+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p93+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David Gar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 07 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- Very well put and handled Mark, I didnt mean to +ACY-quot+ADs-butt+ACY-quot+ADs- in , but I was +ADw-br+AD4- just simply posting my opinions in the +ADw-br+AD4- hope that some people would wake up just a little and really start +ADw-br+AD4- demanding more for their patience and money. I might give a hard +ADw-br+AD4- critique but I hope it keeps the integrity of future sims for the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADsAKgAqACoAJg-quot+ADs- sim +ADw-br+AD4- fanatics. The guys that stay up at night just to get one more lap in and +ADw-br+AD4- devote alot of their time just to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-squeeze+ACY-quot+ADs- that extra 10th of a second outa a lap (some of these guys +ADw-br+AD4- know exactly what I'm talking about). +ADw-br+AD4- Its this fraternity that deserves a serious racing sim that doesnt take +ADw-br+AD4- shortcuts to meet deadlines and collect royalties. My comments are +ADw-br+AD4- directed to the game designers that read these post (we know your +ADw-br+AD4- whatching +ADw-br+AD4- and are probably posting replys under an alias). Isnt it amazing the way +ADw-br+AD4- the Microprose team members dont +ADw-br+AD4- ever reply, I mean comon their very aware of this newsgroup+ACE-. Anyway, I +ADw-br+AD4- dont mean to+ACoAKgAq-anyone off, but +ADw-br+AD4- Its for the quality of future sims in the future. Its for +ACY-quot+ADs-the Boys+ACY-quot+ADsAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Again Mark no heat intended. +ACY-nbsp+ADs--David Gary +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I hope that someday all of our practice will pay off and we will all be +ADw-br+AD4- able to race together in a virtual +ADw-br+AD4- world(with no LAG) and enjoy each others competition and comments. Only +ADw-br+AD4- we can +ACY-quot+ADs-push+ACY-quot+ADs- this closer to the future. It is up to US. I dont like +ADw-br+AD4- paying for a cadillac and finding out it doesnt have AC or a stereo+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p94+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile94+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David Gar+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content94+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p94+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David Gar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 07 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-quot+ADs-It+ACY-quot+ADs- is not that simple. What is? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-The Question was simple not the work in designing the SIM. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I dont understand your meaning of +ACY-quot+ADs-well+ACY-quot+ADs-. 30fps is video speed and is +ADw-br+AD4- the hope of any virtual racing fanatic. +ADw-br+AD4- With p200/mill4meg/512 cache this game wont run 25fps with half graphics +ADw-br+AD4- loaded, so its hard to understand the gray area of +ACY-quot+ADs-well+ACY-quot+ADs-. Running the +ADw-br+AD4- game via modem cuts the already unaccepted framerate in half, so I +ADw-br+AD4- REALLY find it hard to believe for any serious SIM fanatic to agree with +ADw-br+AD4- that statement. GP1(in my opinion) was a game instead of a true sim. It +ADw-br+AD4- really wasnt that good in its time and i think people only excepted it +ADw-br+AD4- because it was the latest thing going for F1 fans. ICR1(to me) gave the +ADw-br+AD4- first real taste of a virtual racing sim. +ADw-br+AD4- If you ever study the response of interest between the 2 I think youll +ADw-br+AD4- find ICR1 in favor. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Your correct, no one is saying GP2 is pefect. The problem is no one is +ADw-br+AD4- saying its NOT perfect. (understand?) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I find this very hard to believe and hope you tell me how you derived +ADw-br+AD4- upon this statement, Do you seriously +ADw-br+AD4- believe someone that has taken a career in this field and is not reading +ADw-br+AD4- what people have to say about his so +ADw-br+AD4- called +ACY-quot+ADs-masterpiece+ACY-quot+ADs-? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-and NO-ONE is going to listen to a +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I have to admit I started off on the wrong foot with my posts and will +ADw-br+AD4- be the first one to admit it. +ADw-br+AD4- I have said things that I DO regret to a certain extent. I want people +ADw-br+AD4- to listen to someone that demands +ADw-br+AD4- the best and hopefully they will to, Its hard to listen to insult, my +ADw-br+AD4- apology. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- None taken John, I hope their are no hard feelings because I enjoy +ADw-br+AD4- anyone who shares a love for this hobby +ADw-br+AD4- and I may sometimes get +ACY-quot+ADs-heated+ACY-quot+ADs-, so please understand that Im just a +ADw-br+AD4- perfectionist and I give the best, +ADw-br+AD4- but I also demand the best+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- -David Gary +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Feel free to check out the fastest Monster Truck Madness team on the +ADw-br+AD4- net. I go under the alias of CRAZYACE +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +AFs- FlyBoyz +ACY-lt+ADs- 1K +AF0- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-h1+AD4-HTTP/1.0 500 Server Error (Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service. ) +ADw-/h1+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p95+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile95+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mark Rober+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content95+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p95+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mark Rober+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 08 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- available. GP2 poor? Compared to what? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Compared to what MP promised on the box, in their web site and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-in all the pre-release marketing BS. Face it, MP shipped an +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-incomplete product and we have every right to expect an update. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I never looked on the MPS web-site so I won+AGA-t comment on that but if +ADw-br+AD4- you care to look carefully at the box (UK version anyway) everything +ADw-br+AD4- that was promised on it was delivered. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They promised multiplayer and +ADw-br+AD4- linked capabilities and delivered both (even if they don+AGA-t run as +ADw-br+AD4- quickly as a single-player game). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There wsa no mention of network +ADw-br+AD4- capabilities on the box, nor of wet-weather racing or changing +ADw-br+AD4- conditions. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There was no mention made of utilities to edit the game. +ADw-br+AD4- As was already mentioned elsewhere the vast majority of the +ACY-quot+ADs-BS+ACY-quot+ADs- was +ADw-br+AD4- created by us, the paying consumers. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- As MPS provided what was +ADw-br+AD4- advertised on the box I don+AGA-t understand why people think we have some +ADw-br+AD4- sort of God-given right to a patch. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There may be things in the game +ADw-br+AD4- such as pit-stops, damage and spins that people don+AGA-t like but you +ADw-br+AD4- can+AGA-t please everybody with a single product, and these were not +ADw-br+AD4- different from how they were advertised. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Where people may have cause +ADw-br+AD4- for complaint is if the game was badly bugged but the only time I have +ADw-br+AD4- ever seen GP2 crash was when it was run under Win95, something which +ADw-br+AD4- the documentation advises against. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-For what people care (very little +ADw-br+AD4- I would imagine +ADs--) ) I don+AGA-t think you can call GP2 incomplete. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mark +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBf- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-..every lap I think +AGA-Oh bollocks+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- This is dreadful..+AGAAJg-quot+ADs- Damon Hill +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p96+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile96+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Shane Lans+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content96+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p96+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Shane Lans+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- If I was Geoff Crammond I would tell the lot of them to get stuffed. A +ADw-br+AD4- patch is being made so we all just have to be patient and wait a bit. +ADw-br+AD4- Jeez ok so GP2 is not 100+ACU- just yet but it is close. We should give +ADw-br+AD4- the bloke a fair go as he was rushed by the masses to release it +ADw-br+AD4- before he really wanted to. I dont think he will do it again as the +ADw-br+AD4- back stabbing is rather sad to see. He is only human and I for one +ADw-br+AD4- think he has done heaps for the racing sims and appeciate his work. +ADw-br+AD4- Microprose are working on the speed at this moment to make sure it is +ADw-br+AD4- fast enough over a network. With all the back lash they wont realese +ADw-br+AD4- it till its 100+ACU- right and who could blame them.. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Shane Lansky +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- Hobart,Tasmania +ADw-br+AD4- Australia +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p97+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile97+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Shane Lans+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content97+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p97+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Shane Lans+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:03:28 +000-, John Wallace +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Can we keep it civil? The discussion is a valid one, but another thread +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-turned into a slanging match is just a waste of time. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Oops. Sorry to everyone out there. I was trying to keep reasonably +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-civil +ACY-amp+ADs- not responding too much in kind, but it does get a little +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-difficult at times :( +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I also tend to be just a little too defensive when criticisms are made +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-of the programmers that I admire, especially if they are vulgar, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-personal attacks. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Valid, substantiated criticisms of the +AF8-products+AF8- are on topic for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-this group. Personal attacks on the programmers are +AF8-not+AF8- and are +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-inevitably counterproductive. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-You are 100+ACU- correct... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Shane Lansky +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- Hobart,Tasmania +ADw-br+AD4- Australia +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p98+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile98+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Shane Lans+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content98+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p98+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Shane Lans+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-On Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:58:17 +000-, John Wallace +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-That is not what the writer was implying. Microprose advertised +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-something and did not deliver the full adverti+ACoAKgAq-t. As he said...How +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-would you like to buy a colour T.V and find out it is black and white +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to be told that a fix for it will be available when ever. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-quot+ADs-Fix+ACY-quot+ADs-? What has to be fixed? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-You bought a racing sim, got THE top racing sim on the market, and there +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-was no fix or update promised. The writer was implying that GP2 was some +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-sort of unfinished product, the +ACY-quot+ADs-black and white TV+ACY-quot+ADs- of the analogy, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that is from where my +ACY-quot+ADs-valve model+ACY-quot+ADs- came from. Since GP2 is, IMO, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-superior to anything else on the market by now, it stands to reason that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-they must be lower than the black and white TV on the racing-sim +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-evolutionary scale. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I'd love to see your NICAM, widescreen HDTV model, but it's not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-available. GP2 poor? Compared to what? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-No I think you read what I said wrong. I like the sim and play it to +ADw-br+AD4- death. i dont give a shit if a patch is made or not. The point is they +ADw-br+AD4- said IPX net work in the mags Wet weather and more. That is not in the +ADw-br+AD4- game at the moment. Now i have e-mailed microprose and they said YES a +ADw-br+AD4- patch is coming out about December so the game is not yet finished. +ADw-br+AD4- All in all i am satisfied with GP2 and some are not. I think some have +ADw-br+AD4- gone over the top in voicing there opinions but thats that. I trust +ADw-br+AD4- microprose as they have been good in the past and I have faith they +ADw-br+AD4- will deliver in the end. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Shane Lansky +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- Hobart,Tasmania +ADw-br+AD4- Australia +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p99+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile99+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Lars Birkemos+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content99+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p99+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Lars Birkemos+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- Thats no argument +ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- Name me ONE game with no patches.. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mose +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p100+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile100+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-John Wallac+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content100+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p100+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-John Wallac+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-It+ACY-quot+ADs- is not that simple. What is? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The game DOES run well on the fastest hardware - I've tried it. The game +ADw-br+AD4- DOES run well over modem. Cast your mind back to F1GP and remember the +ADw-br+AD4- hardware demands it made of your PC. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-No-one is saying GP2 is perfect, I personally ran a campaign in Sim News +ADw-br+AD4- asking what people wanted to see, collected thousands of responses, +ADw-br+AD4- collated them and forwarded them to Geoff and the design team. Craig +ADw-br+AD4- Heath did a very similar thing for bug fixes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Geoff doesn't read the newsgroups, and NO-ONE is going to listen to a +ADw-br+AD4- bunch of people +ACoAKgAq-ing and whining, especially if they are being +ADw-br+AD4- insulting to boot. Think about what can be done constructively, and if +ADw-br+AD4- that has already been done or you can't think of anything, perhaps you +ADw-br+AD4- could avoid rehashing what has already been said or insulting people. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-No offence intended, I've just seen all this so many times before. 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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Rob +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p102+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile102+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-David Gar+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content102+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p102+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-David Gar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- From memory, there is nothing about weather or network or any other +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +AGA-missing+AGA- feature on the box of the British version. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- ----------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Parkstone Motor Company, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Southend on Sea, Essex +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- United Kingdom. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- ----------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-NO wet weather in GP2 is only a coal in the fire compared to the major +ADw-br+AD4- problems this sim has and is why it is +ADw-br+AD4- considered, unfinished+ACE- I mean comon, The box didnt say the sim had +ADw-br+AD4- modem play from another game's modem link +ADw-br+AD4- that was designed back when God know when+ACEAIQ- Face it, that is clearly +ADw-br+AD4- FALSE ADVERTISING in my book. I think +ADw-br+AD4- anyone who knows this would surely feel like he has been had+ACE- How about +ADw-br+AD4- I sell you a new car for sticker price +ADw-br+AD4- and when you get home and wonder why its not runnin right, you raise the +ADw-br+AD4- hood only to find out it has a USED +ADw-br+AD4- engine+ACEAIQAh- +ACY-nbsp+ADs--David Gary +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p103+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile103+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mark Rober+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content103+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p103+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mark Rober+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- So how would onefeel ifyou went to FORD +ACY-amp+ADs- bought a Mondeo Ghia +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-amp+ADs- ended up with a Mondeo L (Nosteror, no sunroof, no abs etc +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I went to a computer store, looked at a box for GP2 and decided I +ADw-br+AD4- wanted to buy it because what I saw on the box. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even after all of the +ADw-br+AD4- hype if I didn+AGA-t like what I saw I wouldn+AGA-t have bought it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-When I +ADw-br+AD4- installed the software I got GP2, as advertised and not some other +ADw-br+AD4- product so I think your analagy is a little misplaced. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- If I was sold something other than the advertised product I would +ADw-br+AD4- politely request my original purchase or a full refund. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I don+AGA-t think +ADw-br+AD4- this is the case here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- At least we agree that GP2 is good :-) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Once again, rain wasn+AGA-t +ADw-br+AD4- advertised on the box. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-GC had no choice about the 1994 season data, +ADw-br+AD4- as that is what was liscenced to MPS by the FIA. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-IMHO the sound in +ADw-br+AD4- GP2 is top notch, little effects such as stones being kicked up in the +ADw-br+AD4- gravel, wheels over rumble strips and downchanges etc. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-You are +ADw-br+AD4- probably right about the game being released early due to consumer +ADw-br+AD4- pressure. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But then when some of the people who were applying the +ADw-br+AD4- pressure don+AGA-t get everything they wanted they start to moan. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That +ADw-br+AD4- hardly seems fair on GC and his programming team. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mark +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBf- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-..every lap I think +AGA-Oh bollocks+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- This is dreadful..+AGAAJg-quot+ADs- Damon Hill +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p104+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile104+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mark Rober+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content104+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p104+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mark Rober+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- I never looked on the MPS web-site so I won+AGA-t comment on that but if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Need to check MPS before posting your opinion. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-So I need to check the MPS site before I can post an opinion on the +ADw-br+AD4- box? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- They didn+AGA-t promise it wouldn+AGA-t be from another game either +ADs--) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-They +ADw-br+AD4- haven+AGA-t conned anyone here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- IMHO it is the most realistic racing sim ever. AFAICT the only other +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-sim+ACY-quot+ADs- to have had rain was GP1. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even without rain GP2 is more +ADw-br+AD4- realistic than the original in terms of the model, graphics and sound. +ADw-br+AD4- People could argue that the changing weather in ICR2 make it more +ADw-br+AD4- realistic than GP2, but that is a matter of preference. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- That depends on whether or not I trust the person who is doing the +ADw-br+AD4- selling +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Judging a person on a single statement or belief is rarely a very wise +ADw-br+AD4- choice. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Everybody is entitled to an opinion, so just because you +ADw-br+AD4- think the sim is half assed doesn+AGA-t mean everybody is inclined to +ADw-br+AD4- agree with you. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I was pointing out that the decisions about damage +ADw-br+AD4- etc were made so that the game would appeal to a wider market and not +ADw-br+AD4- just a small core of hardened racing fans. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I personally would have +ADw-br+AD4- prefered more realism in this area, but MPS know I+AGA-m not the only +ADw-br+AD4- person they have to convince to buy their software. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-When the GP1 was +ADw-br+AD4- released hardly anybody I knew could run it with full detail, now most +ADw-br+AD4- can run it in a DOS box, full detail, 25 FPS and get around 35+ACU- PO at +ADw-br+AD4- worst. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I doubt if it wil be too long before the hardware is available +ADw-br+AD4- to run most of the graphics options. Isn+AGA-t this just a little common +ADw-br+AD4- sense from GC in not limiting the grahics to what will run on current +ADw-br+AD4- spec. machines? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- The +AF8-joke+AF8- was meant to point out that a lot of people who read the +ADw-br+AD4- newsgroups aren+AGA-t interested in listening to what others have to say, +ADw-br+AD4- merely trying to shout the loudest. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Please take a little care when you reply to a post. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The above would +ADw-br+AD4- indicate that I originally posted the +ACY-quot+ADs-David Gary Quote+ACY-quot+ADs-, which isn+AGA-t +ADw-br+AD4- the case. +ADw-br+AD4- If you dislike the product so much don+AGA-t play it, take it back to the +ADw-br+AD4- store where you purchased it and see if you can get it swapped or +ADw-br+AD4- refunded. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you can+AGA-t maybe you+AGA-ll be a little more careful with +ADw-br+AD4- your money in the future +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mark +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBf- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-..every lap I think +AGA-Oh bollocks+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- This is dreadful..+AGAAJg-quot+ADs- Damon Hill +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p105+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile105+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-addi+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content105+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p105+ACIAPg-GP2 NEWS DIRECT FROM MICROPROSE UK +ACEAIQAhACEAIQA8-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-addi+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +AFs-cut a damn lot of bullshit among other things+AF0- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- hey gary +ADw-br+AD4- what do you really want ? 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