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Gp3 issues

Nick

Gp3 issues

by Nick » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 19:21:06

did anybody notice how bad gp3 physics are? <probably>

also, it has some bad control issues that need to be resolved. if you are
facing in a direction different to the one the game thinks you should be in,
it won't let you turn the wheel anywhere else but back onto the track.

for example. *** square monaco. monsoon, with slick tyres on (i know they
have grooves but you know what i mean - it's the only way to drive :-) i
lose it and decide that any attempt to stay on the road will result in a
collision with the barrier, so i steer away from the road to go down the
escape road - the big built in spaces seen at mirabeau. but oh no, the game
won't let me go down there, it drives me into the wall instead. turning is
impossible. steering in the pit lane is impossible. steering around a corner
on the outside of an AI is impossible. turn-in oversteer is impossible and
so is roll oversteer (even if you tweak the setups to deliberately get
some - it doesn't happen). i like to drive oversteering cars. why won't it
let me!!

somebody make it better, please!

Kulvinder Singh Mathar

Gp3 issues

by Kulvinder Singh Mathar » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:30:20



You haven't got "Steering Help" turned on have you? Check *both* the
***pit and the controller setup where steering help is adjusted.
Also check "Auto Right".

[snip]

There is limited steering available in the pit lane.

I've driven around the outside of an AI car in a corner.

I've had turn-in oversteer like crazy and like to tune it down a lot.

Not sure what you mean by roll oversteer.

I get oversteer like crazy, especially on some of the setups that
I've downloaded from the Internet. I have to do a certain amount of
work on these to remove most of the oversteer as it doesn't suit my
driving style.

Without knowing more, I'd say that you've got one or more computer
driving aids turned on.

Also, I suggest that you download various patches and updates
(official and unofficial ones) that enhance the driving experience.
GPxPatch, GPEdit and GP3Video are the ones worth getting (GPxPatch is
amazing! It does *lots* of things and has support for additional
sounds....you can now hear other cars and also get radio messages
from the pits as well as hearing Murray Walker screaming!). Also try
the track updates and also new tracks. And there's also no car
shapes, liveries, carsets, etc. Check out here for most of these...

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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Kasper Kowalsk

Gp3 issues

by Kasper Kowalsk » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:20:03


switch the driving aids off!!! fixes everything.

if you can't get turn-in oversteer, then you don't know how. even on the
default setups which are setup for understeer, i can get any amount of
oversteer i want turning in... just a matter of how late you want to hold
onto the brakes, and how much steering lock.

KK

GBB

Gp3 issues

by GBB » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:36:19


<snip>

What even the shitty graphics crappy physics engine and non existent
internet play? ;0)

Bart Westr

Gp3 issues

by Bart Westr » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:39:20


Try turning off steering help.

Bart

Kasper Kowalsk

Gp3 issues

by Kasper Kowalsk » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 22:08:58


there's nothing wrong with the physics engine.. of the modern F1 sims it's
the best IMO.

KK

Douglas Elliso

Gp3 issues

by Douglas Elliso » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 22:17:24




> > > switch the driving aids off!!! fixes everything.

> > <snip>

> > What even the shitty graphics crappy physics engine and non existent
> > internet play? ;0)

> there's nothing wrong with the physics engine.. of the modern F1 sims it's
> the best IMO.

It's the same shitty below-par physics we had with GP2

Doug

GBB

Gp3 issues

by GBB » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 22:34:13




> > > switch the driving aids off!!! fixes everything.

> > <snip>

> > What even the shitty graphics crappy physics engine and non existent
> > internet play? ;0)

> there's nothing wrong with the physics engine.. of the modern F1 sims it's
> the best IMO.

> KK

'IMO' the physics engine is very simplistic and functional it feels nice but
'IMO' is in no way realistic. If you look at the physics editors for GP3 and
F1RC the physics engine of F1RC is obviously far more advanced than GP3's,
it's just a pity the AI is so bad and it messes up my GPL driving otherwise
I would play it allot.

Alex

rik anthra

Gp3 issues

by rik anthra » Sun, 05 Aug 2001 23:26:50


??????
GP3 physics are fine, you have some sort of controller problem or something.
Make sure you have all the "aids" turned off.

ymenar

Gp3 issues

by ymenar » Mon, 06 Aug 2001 00:03:31


> > there's nothing wrong with the physics engine.. of the modern F1 sims
it's
> > the best IMO.

> It's the same shitty below-par physics we had with GP2

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Gerry Aitke

Gp3 issues

by Gerry Aitke » Mon, 06 Aug 2001 00:58:03




> > did anybody notice how bad gp3 physics are? <probably>

> ??????
> GP3 physics are fine, you have some sort of controller problem or something.
> Make sure you have all the "aids" turned off.

Don't be silly porridge brain, they're are TEN years old! I hear GC is
going to use the same physics engine for his new slot car sim <CHUCKLE>.

Gerry

Frankie Hower

Gp3 issues

by Frankie Hower » Mon, 06 Aug 2001 01:20:03





> > > did anybody notice how bad gp3 physics are? <probably>

> > ??????
> > GP3 physics are fine, you have some sort of controller problem or
something.
> > Make sure you have all the "aids" turned off.

> Don't be silly porridge brain, they're are TEN years old! I hear GC is
> going to use the same physics engine for his new slot car sim <CHUCKLE>.

> Gerry

Wrong group Gerry - I think you want alt.billygoatsgruff
GraDe

Gp3 issues

by GraDe » Mon, 06 Aug 2001 02:52:23


Yes they are very good, you will learn how to gain advantage of these high
levels of detail if you read on...

You obviously ahve steering help on which makes the cars pretty much drive
without any steering input, or very little anyway meaning yuo haven't much
control making the otherwise good physics usless. Turn it off and you'll
ahve no problems.

Read above, all caused by steering help in the controller menu.

pjgt..

Gp3 issues

by pjgt.. » Mon, 06 Aug 2001 03:31:45



> did anybody notice how bad gp3 physics are? <probably>

Have you turned off steering & throttle help?

8-)

*Peter* -  http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

Thom j

Gp3 issues

by Thom j » Mon, 06 Aug 2001 04:05:13


software!! :)

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