rec.autos.simulators

RBR lock ups / freezes

Chris Bradle

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Chris Bradle » Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:13:21

RBR installed recently locks up & freezes or sometimes bombs out to Windows.
I've tried all the new drivers I can think of:
Nvidia Nforce2 4.27 (Asus A7N8X mobo with onboard sound)
ATI Catalyst 4.7 (Radeon 9500 pro 128Mb)
DirectX 9.0c
RBS 1.01 patch has been applied
Sound acceleration set down to basic.
It fails after about 5 minutes of driving stages or rally school.
O/S is Win ME & CPU is Athlon XP 2800, 512MbRAM

Any ideas?

Chris

Mike Beaucham

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Mike Beaucham » Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:56:57

Since RBR can't go to the desktop and come back (it just crashes if you try
to alt-tab out of it. Maybe you have something that is taking "focus" from
RBR, making it minimize and crash? Anything running on your system by any
chance, antivirus, autoupdate crap, messenger stuff?

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com


Charli

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Charli » Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:40:18

reduce graphic options, set agp aperature to 32 or 64, toggle agp fast
write, drag the agp slider in the smartgart section of advanced display
options right down, look in your event viewer for anything particular
occuring as it crashes.

Charlie

Chris Bradle

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Chris Bradle » Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:44:19

Thanks - tried AGP aperature at 64 & 32.  Dragged Smart Gart to nil & 4x,
disabled fast writes.  Reduce graphics in RBR and Direct3D settings.  This
has made some improvement - now it takes about 10 minutes before it crashes.
BTW what' s "event viewer"?

Any more ideas??

Chris


Charli

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Charli » Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:02:54

under control panel, administrator tools.  

try updating the bios and any available windows updates?  

Charlie

Uwe Schürkam

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Uwe Schürkam » Tue, 28 Sep 2004 01:45:30


> Thanks - tried AGP aperature at 64 & 32.  Dragged Smart Gart to nil & 4x,
> disabled fast writes.  Reduce graphics in RBR and Direct3D settings.  This
> has made some improvement - now it takes about 10 minutes before it crashes.
> BTW what' s "event viewer"?

> Any more ideas??

> Chris



>> reduce graphic options, set agp aperature to 32 or 64, toggle agp fast
>> write, drag the agp slider in the smartgart section of advanced display
>> options right down, look in your event viewer for anything particular
>> occuring as it crashes.

>> Charlie

I think he mentioned he's using ME, so no admin tools there ("good" OS
for *** though and not bug-compatible with most of today's windows
exploits ;-)

Are other sims running fine for longer periods of time? It might be a
heat issue. Also, check your RAM using memtest86 for a night or
two. If the crashes happen at the exact same time, it might hint at
the cause of the problem.

uwe

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Chris Bradle

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Chris Bradle » Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:24:09

Other Sims / games work fine on the system e.g. CMR2 &3 &4, F12001, GPL,
Italian Job, CFS1 &2.

I'll try Memtest86.

I was wondering if it's to do with the onboard sound in my A7N8X mobo?  It's
the NForce2 sound.  RBR wouldn't work at all with sound acceleration on
full.  System locks/bomb outs happen more frequently when sound acceleration
is higher.  The "least bad" time (ie when it survives about 10 minutes) is
with sound acceleration on none.



> > Thanks - tried AGP aperature at 64 & 32.  Dragged Smart Gart to nil &
4x,
> > disabled fast writes.  Reduce graphics in RBR and Direct3D settings.
This
> > has made some improvement - now it takes about 10 minutes before it
crashes.
> > BTW what' s "event viewer"?

> > Any more ideas??

> > Chris



> >> reduce graphic options, set agp aperature to 32 or 64, toggle agp fast
> >> write, drag the agp slider in the smartgart section of advanced display
> >> options right down, look in your event viewer for anything particular
> >> occuring as it crashes.

> >> Charlie

> I think he mentioned he's using ME, so no admin tools there ("good" OS
> for *** though and not bug-compatible with most of today's windows
> exploits ;-)

> Are other sims running fine for longer periods of time? It might be a
> heat issue. Also, check your RAM using memtest86 for a night or
> two. If the crashes happen at the exact same time, it might hint at
> the cause of the problem.

> uwe

> --
> mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox)
> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
> GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Swerv

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Swerv » Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:59:00


> Other Sims / games work fine on the system e.g. CMR2 &3 &4, F12001,
> GPL, Italian Job, CFS1 &2.

> I'll try Memtest86.

> I was wondering if it's to do with the onboard sound in my A7N8X
> mobo?  It's the NForce2 sound.  RBR wouldn't work at all with sound
> acceleration on full.  System locks/bomb outs happen more frequently
> when sound acceleration is higher.  The "least bad" time (ie when it
> survives about 10 minutes) is with sound acceleration on none.

Silly thing, and I posted this in another thread, but I found that if I
have anything in my DVD drive other than the RBR DVD or just leaving it
empty, it'll crash on me with 1.01 installed.   It kinda looks like the
no-dvd thing actually does try to check the DVD, and if it finds
something it doesn't expect in there, it'll freak out and crash.

I had a movie in the drive when I installed 1.01, and played like that,
the thing brought windows down 3 times.   I took the DVD out and left
the drive empty, and I ran the UK and Japan rallies in sequence without
a problem.

Chris Bradle

RBR lock ups / freezes

by Chris Bradle » Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:48:27

Update - problem solved (well work around).
I tried all combinations of graphics settings, AGP apperature size, Fast
writes, AA, AF settings with no joy.
But moving theSoumd acceleration slider down to none (in DXDiag) removed the
locks / freezes / stuttering & now it's silky smooth with good fram rates.

I've also upgraded from the onboard sound to an audigy sound card but found
that again onlt in RBR I need to slide the soumd acceleration down to make
it run stably.



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