rec.autos.simulators

> Sorry on this one Iain!
> Dont believe it! Dont buy it and Dont try to sell it! Cuz its Bullocks!
You
> know it as well as I do! Its all about $money$ here! Fact!!
> Secondly imho: MGPRS2 was not an upgrade to F1RS only a de'grade
> and nothing will convince me nor change my mind on this issue!
> Again I say: I really "Empathize" with the folks that bought F1RC at all!!
> All UbiSoft did was use them as 'beta' testers and now put the real deal
> out with another price tag on it!! Bulllocks' Again!
> If they are "Absolutely" 100% sincere in their efforts they should give a
> 100% rebate to all who purchased F1RC {in round one} and who will
> purchase F1RC2.. {Sadly it just lines UbiSoft's pockets even more.}
> Now this is good business and good marketing! This was my personal
> expertise & career for over 30'years & dealt with mostly Fortune 100
> Companies. I have seen this done before and I do know what's going
> on here...Cheers Thom_j.
> "All the above comments are my personal opinions and do not reflect
> on any of the 'software industry standards.'... Thank you."

> | Ubi's 'poor attempt of an upgrade with MGPRS2' was in fact a major step
> | forward from F1RS.  The physics, the AI, the effect of different garage
> | parameters, and the graphics were huge improvements over F1RS.
> | In addition, Ubi were very good at producing patches quickly for their
> | titles - and were praised on ras at the time for that.
> | This whole thing about the FIA approval of the patch is another mystery.
> | Why the complaints?  F1RC has only been out about 6 weeks, and what do
Ubi
> | have to gain if they are lying about this?  The criticism makes no sense
> I'm
> | afraid.
> | OK, there are issues of AI performance, which as I've said before mostly
> | seem to have gone away for me and I don't know whether that's because of
> the
> | supposed 'learning' aspect, or it may be down to one of the many 3rd
party
> | patches that have appeared. Also, one (or two) guys seem to have a weird
> | problem relating to deleting save game folders.  Nevertheless, most
people
> | (including well-respected ras drivers) feel that F1RC is the best modern
> F1
> | sim around and are getting a lot of pleasure and challenge out of it.
> | Anyway what's wrong with announcing a sequel to be released 6 months in
> the
> | future?  Don't you guys want to think that even better sims might be
ahead
> | of us?  I certainly do!
> | Iain
> <snipped appropriately>

> > Sorry on this one Iain!
> > Dont believe it! Dont buy it and Dont try to sell it! Cuz its Bullocks!
You
> > know it as well as I do! Its all about $money$ here! Fact!!

> Of course it's a fact. Anyone who believe Ubi is doing it for the
> love is a nutbag. Of course it's for the money. Show me a stock
> that has a column containing a column labelled 'huginess'.

> Remains to be seen if the patch comes out. If F1RC satisfies the
> original scope then I'm happy. Regardless, I think my $89.95 right
> now was well spent. If F1RC2 comes out and it doesn't provide me
> with a bang for my buck, then I'll pass on it. I'm the consumer,
> just like you, and I can choose to vote with my wallet. Hence I
> don't understand the rant or the alleged rip off.

> Previous Ubi F1 sims would suggest that F1RC will be patched. But
> then you could argue the same rationale that it won't be patched
> well... ;) But before we jump off the deep end, how about we just
> assume that Ubi is telling us the truth, and be patient on a title
> that is essenitally a recent release? Maybe the patch will alleviate
> some of the AI issues that most of us have experienced. I have been
> frustrated several times by AI holding its line when I clearly have
> the corner...

> Patience is a virtue.

> Cheers,
> Rod.

> Gimme a break!  I just picked up F1RC!

> > Geezzzzzzzzz!!! they want us to buy it again??..........comments welcome :))

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > Cheers, David.
> > TopLoader.
> > Melbourne, Australia.

> --
> Bert

> On Fri, 18 May 2001 19:32:35 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"

> >No, you're right it was me, and Ian P I think, and quite a few others.
As I
> >have said many times before to you, you are misrepresenting what I said
then
> >and what I am saying now.
> >So, for the nth time let me repeat...  I am not suggesting that every
knock,
> >crash, etc. is down to poor driving on your (or anyone else's) part, but
a
> >large number of them are.  If you look at modern F1, then almost a missed
> >gear change in a fast corner can cause a major incident.
> >What happens is that companies like EA and Ubi dumb down the AI to
> >accomodate the needs of sim racers - like yourself apparently - to make
the
> >sim more playable.  If you try accelerating from the start and then
braking
> >immediately in F1CS, you'll find that rather than having 20 cars rammed
up
> >your rear end, they all manage to miss you!  Realistic? I don't think so.
> >Try the same in F1RC.
> >I and many others have no problem with the AI in F1RC now, and as I said
in
> >the original post, I'm not sure whether that is down to the 'learning'
> >aspect of the sim, or to one of the (many) third party patches I've
applied.
> >Iain

> Sorry Ian, but your telepathic powers about my driving style are weak
> at best. None of the above explains the copious amounts of AI crashing
> into each other or no attempt at all to miss running *through* my car.
> Even GP3 is weak in this area at times. Try racing at Monza and 9
> times out of 10 there will be idiot AI cars crashing at the first
> turn. Dumbed down AI indeed.
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> Are you still four seconds off the pace, and still insisting it's too

>Sorry Jagg, but this just doesn't happen with me at all.  I don't have that
>happening at Monza.
>I'm beginning to wonder about all this, why are such differences between
>people's experiences here.  Could it be down to some 3rd party patch?  Are
>you using 1.51 performance and physics patch or the 2001 update?  Are you
>using anything that isn't out of the box?
>Iain