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RASCAR: Martinsville

Larr

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Larr » Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:48:55

Odd, it's almost midnight and a Martinsville race thread hasn't started yet
:)

I think we did pretty damned well today.  We had few cautions (for a short
track) and a ton of long green runs.

Unfortunately, I got turned onto my lid somewhere around lap number 5, and
my day sucked from there on.

The car was fine, but the big-hand-of-Papy reached down and ripped one of my
plug wires off and I was down on power.  For me from that point it was a
race of LPI improvement and moving up by attrition.

Interestingly, there wasn't much attrition!

My motor blew with 19 to go, during a yellow of all things.

Manners seemed pretty good today :)

Congrats to Neil!

Larry

Matt Knutse

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Matt Knutse » Mon, 14 Apr 2003 18:31:59

And you were a real Gentleman using your mirrors for the rest of the race!
Thanks Larry!
I had my first rascar race since..um..er....sigh. 2001?

Well, enjoyed it very much! Good racing, talented drivers, and I think the #
of yellows were totally acceptable. I was screaming for a yellow in the end
because I was desperate for tires! Had some absolutlely stunning side-by
side stuff with John S, some intense bumper-to-bumper action with Ed, and
whatnots! I even managed to lead for a few laps...whoah. That got me
psyched:)

Congrats to Neil for winning it, and to everybody else for putting up such a
fun race. Hope the family allows me to do this more in the future!

/matt



John Simmon

RASCAR: Martinsville

by John Simmon » Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:17:41

I ran up front (2nd and 3rd) for the first half of the race, and I
managed to avoid getting hit or hitting anything. At about lap 75 or
so a caution came out, and I pitted.  This put me in 8th or 9th, and
that's when my day turned to shit.

On the next to last restart, I was in 7th or 8th, and slowed to keep
from hitting a bunch of cars that were slow getting through a turn,
and Ed spun me. I was pummelled by people that refused to ***ing
slow down, and I couldn't get the car pointed in the right direction
to get going.  This put me at least a half a lap behind the leaders
(because the sim refused to throw a goddamn caution), and by the time
the next caution came out, I had beeen put a lap down.

On the final restart, I was on fresh tires (and none of the leaders
were), and I was trying to get my lap back.  Ginger dove under me as
I was entering turn 3 and flipped me over.  I losyt yet another lap
in the pits waiting to get the damn car fixed. At that point, I lost
a piston or a plug wire or something, and I couldn't keep up with the
pack.  I finished two laps down in 10th place, and I'm a little bit
pissed off about how it ended for me.

I hate to finish laps down.

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Attn John Bayes:

DO NOT JUMP THE RESTARTS. You did it on almost every restart. When
you take the green on a restart, you are supposed to be doing the
*pace* speed and NOT be acceleratihng when the green flag drops.

This is the only warning everyone will receive.

Haqsa

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Haqsa » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:19:04

As long as he doesn't pass the pace car before the S/F line (even after the
pace car goes into the pits) I believe it is legal.  Not sure whether that
has anything to do with real life, but that's the way the game implements
it.  Anyway I believe you will see the real life drivers start to pick up
speed SLOWLY as soon as the pace car goes in.


Tim

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Tim » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:16:36

I'm thinking maybe Ginger was letting someone else drive his car today cause he did the same thing to me, right after we had some
really great side by side racing.

Go figure.

--
Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com


> I ran up front (2nd and 3rd) for the first half of the race, and I
> managed to avoid getting hit or hitting anything. At about lap 75 or
> so a caution came out, and I pitted.  This put me in 8th or 9th, and
> that's when my day turned to shit.

> On the next to last restart, I was in 7th or 8th, and slowed to keep
> from hitting a bunch of cars that were slow getting through a turn,
> and Ed spun me. I was pummelled by people that refused to ***ing
> slow down, and I couldn't get the car pointed in the right direction
> to get going.  This put me at least a half a lap behind the leaders
> (because the sim refused to throw a goddamn caution), and by the time
> the next caution came out, I had beeen put a lap down.

> On the final restart, I was on fresh tires (and none of the leaders
> were), and I was trying to get my lap back.  Ginger dove under me as
> I was entering turn 3 and flipped me over.  I losyt yet another lap
> in the pits waiting to get the damn car fixed. At that point, I lost
> a piston or a plug wire or something, and I couldn't keep up with the
> pack.  I finished two laps down in 10th place, and I'm a little bit
> pissed off about how it ended for me.

> I hate to finish laps down.

> -------------------------------------------

> Attn John Bayes:

> DO NOT JUMP THE RESTARTS. You did it on almost every restart. When
> you take the green on a restart, you are supposed to be doing the
> *pace* speed and NOT be acceleratihng when the green flag drops.

> This is the only warning everyone will receive.

Tim

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Tim » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:19:54

Well, the sim is not real life racing.  The green comes out the exact same place every time.  So most everyone follows the same
speed until the green.

People who jump that, do so with others expecting to follow the normal online etiquette.  Most leagues, well all really, who have
rules do not allow this, so it's usually more a sign of fair play (or lack of)  on the track than anything else.

--
Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com


> As long as he doesn't pass the pace car before the S/F line (even after the
> pace car goes into the pits) I believe it is legal.  Not sure whether that
> has anything to do with real life, but that's the way the game implements
> it.  Anyway I believe you will see the real life drivers start to pick up
> speed SLOWLY as soon as the pace car goes in.



> > Attn John Bayes:

> > DO NOT JUMP THE RESTARTS. You did it on almost every restart. When
> > you take the green on a restart, you are supposed to be doing the
> > *pace* speed and NOT be acceleratihng when the green flag drops.

> > This is the only warning everyone will receive.

Brian Oste

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Brian Oste » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 02:45:38

I was right behind you all for that side-by-side stuff.  I think that
was some of the best side-by-side stuff I have seen in RASCAR, you all
must have gone at it for 5 laps or more.  Ginger was really tough on
the outside, I saw him pass several fast cars by going out there.

As far as the cautions go, I thought we did pretty good for
Martinsville.  I was expecting a lot worse.  I think if you go into
Marty expecting not to get involved in any incidents you are kidding
yourself.  As they say on TV, "check your fealings at the door".

I ran a pretty crappy race.  I qualified awful, on the start I almost
punted Tim, but he held on to it, I punted Joe Saxon to bring out the
first yellow, I self spun right in front of Tim to brink out another
one, and was involved in 1 or 2 others that were not really my fault
but I probably could have avoided (only ended up with 2 incidents
though).  I also tagged the outside wall pretty good coming off one of
the corners and after that my car REALLY pushed.  I didn't want to fix
it because I was afraid I would go down a lap and I was not fast
enough to get it back.  Had some great racing with Ian, he was faster
than I was, but I was able to hold him up for quite a few laps, then
at the end of the race I had fresher tires and was a little faster
than he was. but he was able to hold me off till the end.  Anyway
congrats to Neil.

Brian Oster



John Simmon

RASCAR: Martinsville

by John Simmon » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 02:50:53

We don't jump starts in RASCAR. Period.



> As long as he doesn't pass the pace car before the S/F line (even after the
> pace car goes into the pits) I believe it is legal.  Not sure whether that
> has anything to do with real life, but that's the way the game implements
> it.  Anyway I believe you will see the real life drivers start to pick up
> speed SLOWLY as soon as the pace car goes in.



> > Attn John Bayes:

> > DO NOT JUMP THE RESTARTS. You did it on almost every restart. When
> > you take the green on a restart, you are supposed to be doing the
> > *pace* speed and NOT be acceleratihng when the green flag drops.

> > This is the only warning everyone will receive.

Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Ed Solhei » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 04:55:16

That race went so much better than I had feared!
Okey - we had a few incidents that should have been avioded - but all in all
it went pretty good.
I must admit that I havn't really raced Martinsville that much in NR03 - or
NR02 for that matter - so I'm pleased as hell for just getting to the finish
on the lead lap!

Had a few mishaps on the way though...  I spun by myself once by beeing to
late on the brakes and I spun Matt around once too.. - which he paid back
laps later :-)  As John said - I did touch him too and I had a slight bumb
with Tim - but both those incidents were beyond my control - sorry chaps!

After the incident with John, I actually managed to get up to speed again
pretty fast.. I say John just a few seconds behind - but I guess he couldnt
keep it up during that "long haul".   Odd thing is that I did my best laps
during the end of that period.. Even though I had a car that looked more
like a Pinto than a stocker,  I managed to set my best times on 35-lap old
tires while slowly "reeling" Matt in. Would have been real interresting to
see how thing had turned out had not Neil brought out a yellow on lap
178(-ish)   I'd been up Matt bumber for the last 10 laps and my car felt
real good..  I think both Matt and Brian Oster started experiecing problems
too so a top 4 could have been in store for me...  Another thing I really
regret is not pitting during that penultamet (sp?) caution...  that stop
really won Neil the race I think..  I was thinking so hard about pitting...
but then I saw that most of the guys opted to stay out - so I did too....
not realising until later that those who had pitted, were actually laps
down - so I had absolutley nothing to loose by stopping! Oh well :-(

Anyway, kudos to Neil for winning, Larry, Jan and other "lappers" (God, I
hate that word) for being very kind and cooperative yesterday.

Good race y'all!

--
ed_
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BowtNetterToD

RASCAR: Martinsville

by BowtNetterToD » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 06:34:38

Guilty as charged John, my fault, sorry again.

I'm not sure the incident with you is the same though Tim, didnt someone
else hit you before you quit the server ?

Ginger


cause he did the same thing to me, right after we had some

> really great side by side racing.

> Go figure.

> --
> Tim White
> www.intracmotorsports.com




Tim

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Tim » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:24:07

Yeah, you :)

That one put me up against the inside wall trying to gas out of it and brought out a caution so I just parked it.  I didn't save the
replay so I'll check it again when it gets uploaded.

--
Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com


> Guilty as charged John, my fault, sorry again.

> I'm not sure the incident with you is the same though Tim, didnt someone
> else hit you before you quit the server ?

> Ginger

Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Ed Solhei » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:53:06

Tim,

It was actually me who was on the inside as you "closed the door"...  What
basicly happen (the way I saw it) was that Ginger dived inside you - forcing
you to run wide. That left me - who was directly behind Ginger -  to either
run wide and hit you or dive inside too - hopeing you'de stay on the
outside..  I opted for the latter, so when you closed the door again, we
touched - front fender to front fender. Then someone (Jan?) hit you from
behind and that spun you around.

Shame you left though.. it turned out to be a real good race in the end.

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ed_
http://rascar.racesimcentral.com
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$10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

Brian Oste

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Brian Oste » Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:24:00

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:53:06 +0200, "Ed Solheim"


>Tim,

>It was actually me who was on the inside as you "closed the door"...  What
>basicly happen (the way I saw it) was that Ginger dived inside you - forcing
>you to run wide. That left me - who was directly behind Ginger -  to either
>run wide and hit you or dive inside too - hopeing you'de stay on the
>outside..  I opted for the latter, so when you closed the door again, we
>touched - front fender to front fender. Then someone (Jan?) hit you from
>behind and that spun you around.

Uh, that would have been me, I couldn't get slowed down enough and I
hit Tim... then Ian hit me and I spun but was able to stay on the lead
lap.

Brian Oster

Eldre

RASCAR: Martinsville

by Eldre » Wed, 16 Apr 2003 01:25:12

You get used to it...trust me. :-)

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RASCAR: Martinsville

by Tim » Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:12:10

Ok, I can understand that.  I have done that before, following someone underneath once the guy in front got moved out.

My point was Ginger started that with the dive bomb.  You and Brian just did what you could.  I would've done it too.  The reason I
left was I just couldn't believe he'd do that, that early.  He has always been so clean and patient.  I had to leave to keep my
mouth shut

:))

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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com


> Tim,

> It was actually me who was on the inside as you "closed the door"...  What
> basicly happen (the way I saw it) was that Ginger dived inside you - forcing
> you to run wide. That left me - who was directly behind Ginger -  to either
> run wide and hit you or dive inside too - hopeing you'de stay on the
> outside..  I opted for the latter, so when you closed the door again, we
> touched - front fender to front fender. Then someone (Jan?) hit you from
> behind and that spun you around.

> Shame you left though.. it turned out to be a real good race in the end.

> --
> ed_
> http://rascar.racesimcentral.com
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> $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC


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