rec.autos.simulators

by **Michael E. Carve** » Mon, 01 Mar 1999 04:00:00

% I just downloaded the new sounds from Pats site:

% Here's a direct link.
% http://www.racesimcentral.net/~expatjen/gpl.htm

While the sounds are great, I have one complaint with them. The loops
are too long. My GPL seems to hiccup while it loads the long wav files.
The default sound waves for GPL run in the 70 to 80 kb range not 211 kb.

But, I guess it's okay once they are loaded. Maybe GPL hiccups because I
only have 64meg of memory?

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **Brian Fo** » Mon, 01 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Agreed. What a difference.

It was a tough choice between the Ferrari sounds. Patrick's had more base,
but I kept the original just 'cause it was the first sound I heard when I
bought the game. The BRM sounds were fairly similiar to my untrained ear,
both very cool, but the new sound was a tad too loud at the top end. The
Honda is incredible, no longer the boring "sounds like everything else" car
that it was, but the Cooper is the reason behind this post. I absolutely
love it. I sat in the pit without touching the gas just to hear the thing
idle. And just as a warning, make sure to move any large metal objects (ie.
filing cabinets) out of the computer room before firing up the cooper and
cranking the volume. Even my little 15w subwoofer had the cabinets
resonating between 8500 and 9000rpm. Great Job! Thanks much.

Brian Fox
http://www.geocities.com/~foxman
H lp! S m b d st l ll th v w ls fr m m k yb rd!

by **Marc Collin** » Mon, 01 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Ummm....it's supposed to be there. That's what a high-revving Italian piece
of machinery sounds like...glorious!!

Marc.

>> both very cool, but the new sound was a tad too loud at the top end. The
>> Honda is incredible, no longer the boring "sounds like everything else"
car
>> that it was, but the Cooper is the reason behind this post. I absolutely
>> love it. I sat in the pit without touching the gas just to hear the
thing
>> idle. And just as a warning, make sure to move any large metal objects
(ie.
>> filing cabinets) out of the computer room before firing up the cooper and
>> cranking the volume. Even my little 15w subwoofer had the cabinets
>> resonating between 8500 and 9000rpm. Great Job! Thanks much.

>Do you get a high pitch with the new Cooper sound? I don't hear it when
>I play the sound manually, but in the sim I hear it. The low engine
>sound is very cool, but if the high pitch on top of that is not supposed
>to be there, I have something configured wrong...

>David

by **Brian Fo** » Mon, 01 Mar 1999 04:00:00

>Do you get a high pitch with the new Cooper sound? I don't hear it when
>I play the sound manually, but in the sim I hear it. The low engine
>sound is very cool, but if the high pitch on top of that is not supposed
>to be there, I have something configured wrong...

There is a whining noise to the cooper sound, but it is also in the
weslake.wav file. It is just more pronounced at higher rpm's. It could
also depend on your speakers.

Brian Fox
http://www.geocities.com/~foxman
H lp! S m b d st l ll th v w ls fr m m k yb rd!

by **Pickar** » Mon, 01 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I just downloaded the new sounds from Pats site:

Here's a direct link.
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~expatjen/gpl.htm

Upon advice from ALison... AND THEY ARE TOTATLLY AWESOME!!!!

They change all the car sounds (or just a few if you want)... and they
totally change the game!!!!

The V12's actually sound live resignating (is that how you spell?>?)
beastS!!!!

Not off cut Nascar V8's :-)

Go and get them NOW!!!! you won't regret it...

BUT.. I think the Ferrari and H16 sounds can be kept... The orignal /
defaults are pretty good and the new ones aren't quite as good... but
I'm sure Patrick will fix this.... :-)

Get them now....

James Pickard,
Melbourne
AUSTRALIA
PS.. teh Honda is the BEST!!!

by **David L. Co** » Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> both very cool, but the new sound was a tad too loud at the top end. The
> Honda is incredible, no longer the boring "sounds like everything else" car
> that it was, but the Cooper is the reason behind this post. I absolutely
> love it. I sat in the pit without touching the gas just to hear the thing
> idle. And just as a warning, make sure to move any large metal objects (ie.
> filing cabinets) out of the computer room before firing up the cooper and
> cranking the volume. Even my little 15w subwoofer had the cabinets
> resonating between 8500 and 9000rpm. Great Job! Thanks much.

Do you get a high pitch with the new Cooper sound? I don't hear it when
I play the sound manually, but in the sim I hear it. The low engine
sound is very cool, but if the high pitch on top of that is not supposed
to be there, I have something configured wrong...

David

by **schwab** » Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Yes, Mike, I am concerned about the loop length too... that's the only
reason I have not installed them.

Patrick, is it necessary??

--Dave

> % I just downloaded the new sounds from Pats site:

> % Here's a direct link.
> % http://homepage.tinet.ie/~expatjen/gpl.htm

> While the sounds are great, I have one complaint with them. The loops
> are too long. My GPL seems to hiccup while it loads the long wav files.
> The default sound waves for GPL run in the 70 to 80 kb range not 211 kb.

> But, I guess it's okay once they are loaded. Maybe GPL hiccups because I
> only have 64meg of memory?

> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

--
Dave Schwabe
The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site
http://users.wi.net/~schwabe

by **patrick dal** » Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi Dave,

There is probably some room for me to shorten the loops a bit. The main
reason they are long is down to my method for creating a seamless loop. I
reverse the sound and paste it back-to-back with the original. That tends
to lengthen the overall loop a bit. A side benefit of the longer loop is
that it tends to minimize oscillation effects that sometime appear with
shorter loops at high revs.

Another way of decreasing the file size would be to convert to 8-bit rather
than 16-bit (4 of 5 GPL originals are 16bit, one is 8-bit for some reason).
There would be a decrease in sound quality but it might not be that
noticeable.

I didn't observe any performance impact whatsoever when I put the new sounds
on my system. That said I have a pretty high spec rig running at 450Mhz,
128Meg RAM. I would be very interested in any more feedback if people think

BTW, I'm planning to put a tutorial up on my site since so many people seem
to be interested in making good sound loops.

best regards,
Patrick

>Yes, Mike, I am concerned about the loop length too... that's the only
>reason I have not installed them.

>Patrick, is it necessary??

by **Ian Parke** » Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Work fine here too, 128MB, excellent work by the way :)
Is there any way to get a bassier sounding original Ferrari sound? ( God I
love that sound :) )

--
Ian Parker

ICQ 21772592

>Michael, do you realise what you just said?!

>*ONLY* 64 meg??!!!!!

>Time was only yesterday (or so it seems) where if we had 16Mb we were
>one-up on the Joneses! :o)

>Anyway, you are probably correct....I use 128Mb and run Pats sounds and
>don't appear to have a hestitation problem.

>Cheers.

>----------

by **Caste** » Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Yeh I agree, the new GPL sounds do make the game alot more enjoyable!!

Get them if you play GPL alot..easy to install too

PassedYa

>Ummm....it's supposed to be there. That's what a high-revving Italian
piece
>of machinery sounds like...glorious!!

>Marc.

>>> both very cool, but the new sound was a tad too loud at the top end.
The
>>> Honda is incredible, no longer the boring "sounds like everything else"
>car
>>> that it was, but the Cooper is the reason behind this post. I
absolutely
>>> love it. I sat in the pit without touching the gas just to hear the
>thing
>>> idle. And just as a warning, make sure to move any large metal objects
>(ie.
>>> filing cabinets) out of the computer room before firing up the cooper
and
>>> cranking the volume. Even my little 15w subwoofer had the cabinets
>>> resonating between 8500 and 9000rpm. Great Job! Thanks much.

>>Do you get a high pitch with the new Cooper sound? I don't hear it when
>>I play the sound manually, but in the sim I hear it. The low engine
>>sound is very cool, but if the high pitch on top of that is not supposed
>>to be there, I have something configured wrong...

>>David

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Michael, do you realise what you just said?!

*ONLY* 64 meg??!!!!!

Time was only yesterday (or so it seems) where if we had 16Mb we were
one-up on the Joneses! :o)

Anyway, you are probably correct....I use 128Mb and run Pats sounds and
don't appear to have a hestitation problem.

Cheers.

--
Regards,
Bruce.
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http://www2.tpg.com.au/users/brucek/hmrc/index.htm
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by **Arto Wik** » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00

>I didn't observe any performance impact whatsoever when I put the new sounds
>on my system. That said I have a pretty high spec rig running at 450Mhz,
>128Meg RAM. I would be very interested in any more feedback if people think

I am using these new excellent sounds in PII 350, 64 ram, Voodoo II, and
they seem to work faultless! Thanks to the maker!

Arto

PS The "feel and sense" of GPL got even better with these real sounds!

by **'John' Joao Sil** » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Patrick, your sounds are working great for me on a Celeron300a/450 with
128megs RAM, noticed no problems at all.

Just wanted to thank you for the amazing Eagle engine sound, terrific
how in the high rev range you can almost hear a chassis vibration
resonance in a way that I could imagine a real 1967 Westlake would
cause the chassis to vibrate at maximum revs...

If you decide to try out 8bit samples please continue to make the
16bit samples available to those of us that want to hear that high
quality music of cylinders and exhaust.

Great job and thanks!

Seeyas on the track.

--John (Joao) Silva

>Hi Dave,

>There is probably some room for me to shorten the loops a bit. The main
>reason they are long is down to my method for creating a seamless loop. I
>reverse the sound and paste it back-to-back with the original. That tends
>to lengthen the overall loop a bit. A side benefit of the longer loop is
>that it tends to minimize oscillation effects that sometime appear with
>shorter loops at high revs.

>Another way of decreasing the file size would be to convert to 8-bit rather
>than 16-bit (4 of 5 GPL originals are 16bit, one is 8-bit for some reason).
>There would be a decrease in sound quality but it might not be that
>noticeable.

>I didn't observe any performance impact whatsoever when I put the new sounds
>on my system. That said I have a pretty high spec rig running at 450Mhz,
>128Meg RAM. I would be very interested in any more feedback if people think

>BTW, I'm planning to put a tutorial up on my site since so many people seem
>to be interested in making good sound loops.

>best regards,
>Patrick

by **Kev** » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00

More likely timing gears ?

by **Remco Moe** » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi Patrick,

Darn, why did you make this Honda sound so good? Now I HAVE to drive
the Honda. And that whale is hard to drive. Well, it is for me.

Thank you for these sounds.

Remco

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