rec.autos.simulators

by **Justin Rya** » Sun, 06 Apr 1997 04:00:00

I just purchased this game and I must say that it is a blast to play! It is
the perfect game for those breaks between the real sims. The driving model
actually feels pretty good and the storyline is great! The graphics are
very nice for SVGA(where's the D3D?) I'm able to run with every detail on
at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine) and this game is for win 95, I'm very
impressed! Much more of a game than Activision has ever produced in my
opinion. If you want to have some fun with an automobile and have a great
storyline to boot, I suggest you pick up this game. It is a riot!!!

by **RDCla** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

Here's a person with no expertise in estimating framerates. I-76 is a
great game, and can be made to run acceptably on a P133, but not as
described above.

Just so nobody is misled. Most players with 133's are saying that it runs
OK -- in the 10-15fps range -- in 640x480 (it goes up to 1024x768) with
ground/sky textures turned off. And is a real blast to play.

A Direct3D patch is in the works. May, maybe.

|--RichC-------------------------Interfacing is Easy--|

by **Wage** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

>> I'm able to run with every detail on
>>at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
>>18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine)

>No, you can't.

You be a little hasty with your reply there. Similarly to
Justin, I can do the same on both a p133 and a p200 we have here. The
key is the video card I think as they are both using 4 meg cards.

by **Mark Daviso** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

> I just purchased this game and I must say that it is a blast to play! It is
> the perfect game for those breaks between the real sims. The driving model
> actually feels pretty good and the storyline is great! The graphics are
> very nice for SVGA(where's the D3D?) I'm able to run with every detail on
> at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
> 18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine) and this game is for win 95, I'm very
> impressed!

What are the specs on your machine? I'm running P200, Rendition, 32 Mb EDO,
512K level 2 and getting nowhere near that performance.

Is Rendition -that- bad?

Mark
Reading, UK

by Jo » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

>>> I'm able to run with every detail on
>>>at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
>>>18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine)

>>No, you can't.
> You be a little hasty with your reply there. Similarly to
>Justin, I can do the same on both a p133 and a p200 we have here. The
>key is the video card I think as they are both using 4 meg cards.

Sorry, just not true. There is no computer available that can run I76
"at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent" (i.e., in
1024x768). Even at 640x480, a great frame-rate will be impossible
until the D3D patch is releases. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't
know what they're talking about. Period.

Joe

by **Robert Plattt** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

Joe sounds like you don't know what your talking about.I have a pent. 166
MMX with 32 meg of Ram and a 2 meg video card and I run with everything on
and the rearview mirror to the highest setting and everything to it's
highest setting.The game runs great no choppiness or slowness at all I also
run N2 with everything on and everything to it's highest setting and it
runs great.I am running both games in 640x480 and they run just great so
either you have a crappy computer or video card or you just don't know what
you are talking about.I shouldn't say that so I take that back because the
game runs better on someone elses computer than yours doesn't mean they
don't know what they are talking about.

Robert

> >>> I'm able to run with every detail on
> >>>at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
> >>>18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine)

> >>No, you can't.

> > You be a little hasty with your reply there. Similarly to
> >Justin, I can do the same on both a p133 and a p200 we have here. The
> >key is the video card I think as they are both using 4 meg cards.

> Sorry, just not true. There is no computer available that can run I76
> "at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent" (i.e., in
> 1024x768). Even at 640x480, a great frame-rate will be impossible
> until the D3D patch is releases. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't
> know what they're talking about. Period.

> Joe

by **Robert Plattt** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

Almost forgot Joe what makes you such authority to say no onr else knows
what hey are talking about.Are you the designer of the game or something no
your not or I seriously doubt it.

Robert

> >>> I'm able to run with every detail on
> >>>at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
> >>>18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine)

> >>No, you can't.

> > You be a little hasty with your reply there. Similarly to
> >Justin, I can do the same on both a p133 and a p200 we have here. The
> >key is the video card I think as they are both using 4 meg cards.

> Sorry, just not true. There is no computer available that can run I76
> "at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent" (i.e., in
> 1024x768). Even at 640x480, a great frame-rate will be impossible
> until the D3D patch is releases. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't
> know what they're talking about. Period.

> Joe

by **Don Mullin** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

> Joe sounds like you don't know what your talking about.I have a pent. 166
> MMX with 32 meg of Ram and a 2 meg video card and I run with everything on
> and the rearview mirror to the highest setting and everything to it's
> highest setting.The game runs great no choppiness or slowness at all I also
> run N2 with everything on and everything to it's highest setting and it
> runs great.I am running both games in 640x480 and they run just great so
> either you have a crappy computer or video card or you just don't know what
> you are talking about.I shouldn't say that so I take that back because the
> game runs better on someone elses computer than yours doesn't mean they
> don't know what they are talking about.

> Robert

> > > You be a little hasty with your reply there. Similarly to
> > >Justin, I can do the same on both a p133 and a p200 we have here. The
> > >key is the video card I think as they are both using 4 meg cards.

> > Sorry, just not true. There is no computer available that can run I76
> > "at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent" (i.e., in
> > 1024x768). Even at 640x480, a great frame-rate will be impossible
> > until the D3D patch is releases. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't
> > know what they're talking about. Period.

> > Joe

Same here no choppy video. I have a 200mmx, 64megs EDO RAM, 2MB video.
The game runs very nice. No hiccups whatsoever.
--
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by **Ken** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

> >> I'm able to run with every detail on
> >>at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
> >>18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine)

> >No, you can't.

> You be a little hasty with your reply there. Similarly to
> Justin, I can do the same on both a p133 and a p200 we have here. The
> key is the video card I think as they are both using 4 meg cards.

I doubt you get 18-25fps with any other cars on the screen. Maybe just
with yourself and the clouds off. On my p200mmx with texture mapping OFF
I get around 20-25 fps which slows to 10-15 with two oe three cars doing
combat. I have 4Mbram Sierra 3d video card.

by **Mikel753** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Hey Joe,
relax pal, I think that the people who actually have the system they are
talking about may possibly know whether it can run or not on it. Do you
have every motherboard? doubt it
do you have or have tried every video card? doubt it
Hell, even the companies that make the damn software can't even try every
configuration of a system. I suppose you did though? doubt it
apparently, you are the one who's lacking knowledge in what you are
talking about

Love,
Mike Lewis

by Jo » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

>Almost forgot Joe what makes you such authority to say no onr else knows
>what hey are talking about.Are you the designer of the game or something no
>your not or I seriously doubt it.

You don't even have good reading comprehension, let alone expertise in
computers. The original post claimed to be able to get a great frame
rate in the maximum resolution (1024x768) which is impossible. You go
on about 640x480, which has nothing to do with what I said.

Joe

P.S. - If you must know my credentials I have a university degree in
computer science and over ten years of professional PC software
development experience (and a contract for a computer programming book
being published by Prentice-Hall this summer).

by **Wage** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

On Sun, 06 Apr 1997 13:34:34 +0100, Mark Davison

>> I just purchased this game and I must say that it is a blast to play! It is
>> the perfect game for those breaks between the real sims. The driving model
>> actually feels pretty good and the storyline is great! The graphics are
>> very nice for SVGA(where's the D3D?) I'm able to run with every detail on
>> at highest resolution and the framerate is very decent(I imagin' about
>> 18fps to 25fps on my p133 machine) and this game is for win 95, I'm very
>> impressed!

>What are the specs on your machine? I'm running P200, Rendition, 32 Mb EDO,
>512K level 2 and getting nowhere near that performance.

>Is Rendition -that- bad?

No Mark, it isn't. I'm using an almost identical computer
(actually as far as what's listed it is identical) with no problems,
in fact it's as fast and as smooth as I can hope for. I only wish it
looked better texture and effects wise. I'll wait for the D3D verison
for that I guess. (this is with everything turned on btw)
- Wager

by **bmc..** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Just to add my .02 cents to the fire. I also have a P166 with 32Mb and
a Stealth 3D 4Mb and I can turn almost everything on in multplayer (or
quick melee) but try running some of the missions. When I did the
"rescue Taurus" mission my system just crawled, I would guestimate
about 8-10 fps. I did get through it but it was not enjoyable.

Please dont post about a shitty system - I have been testing,
building, fixing, breaking, systems for a living for the last 12
years.

When I hear someone say they can run this thing in 1024x768 with
everything turned on I to would say they are full of it - it don't
matter what you got for a system or how it is set up.

FPS is tied to how big the map you are on is, how many other cars are
involved, missles, oil, fire, etc. For everyone out there who says
they can run full detail try the above mission, I'd be interested to
know how it runs :)

B. McKay

>Joe sounds like you don't know what your talking about.I have a pent. 166
>MMX with 32 meg of Ram and a 2 meg video card and I run with everything on
>and the rearview mirror to the highest setting and everything to it's
>highest setting.The game runs great no choppiness or slowness at all I also
>run N2 with everything on and everything to it's highest setting and it
>runs great.I am running both games in 640x480 and they run just great so
>either you have a crappy computer or video card or you just don't know what
>you are talking about.I shouldn't say that so I take that back because the
>game runs better on someone elses computer than yours doesn't mean they
>don't know what they are talking about.

>Robert

by **Justin Rya** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

To help you guys out with your argument, I stated that I'm getting a decent
frame rate at max resolution! This was premature on my part because as I
began to dig deeper into the game I finally ran across the 1024x768 res.
option(full screen) and it is unplayable at that res. My post was
referring("highest resolution") to 640x480, but 800x600 runs ok, too.

Hope this clears things up!

by **tlym** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> Just to add my .02 cents to the fire. I also have a P166 with 32Mb and
> a Stealth 3D 4Mb and I can turn almost everything on in multplayer (or
> quick melee) but try running some of the missions. When I did the
> "rescue Taurus" mission my system just crawled, I would guestimate
> about 8-10 fps. I did get through it but it was not enjoyable.

> Please dont post about a shitty system - I have been testing,
> building, fixing, breaking, systems for a living for the last 12
> years.

> When I hear someone say they can run this thing in 1024x768 with
> everything turned on I to would say they are full of it - it don't
> matter what you got for a system or how it is set up.

> FPS is tied to how big the map you are on is, how many other cars are
> involved, missles, oil, fire, etc. For everyone out there who says
> they can run full detail try the above mission, I'd be interested to
> know how it runs :)

> B. McKay

> >Joe sounds like you don't know what your talking about.I have a pent. 166
> >MMX with 32 meg of Ram and a 2 meg video card and I run with everything on
> >and the rearview mirror to the highest setting and everything to it's
> >highest setting.The game runs great no choppiness or slowness at all I also
> >run N2 with everything on and everything to it's highest setting and it
> >runs great.I am running both games in 640x480 and they run just great so
> >either you have a crappy computer or video card or you just don't know what
> >you are talking about.I shouldn't say that so I take that back because the
> >game runs better on someone elses computer than yours doesn't mean they
> >don't know what they are talking about.

> >Robert

I don't think so Rob,I have a mmx 200, 64meg edo,512
cache,Screaming3d,you know,all the bells and whisles.
The game borrowed it's graphic engine from MEC,and as we all know
it wasent the exackly the pinacal of 3d gameing. I would guess 20 fps or
so,and as for nas2 if i want the best framerate, the grandstands have to
be off,othewise i get these madding pauses on certian parts of the
tracks.
I think the problem is an ego thing, I spend therefore I am,you know,
the same group who's tape measure inexplicably come up 4inch to long.
Yours truely
Mr.V

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