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I'm also having problems getting the timing down between braking and
accelerating through the turns.  It feels a lot clumsier doing this
with your feet than by pressing a button on your joystick.  I guess it
takes a little while to get used to.

Anyone else have comments on this?  Is it normal for joystick setups
to be way out of whack?

I haven't tried driving in traffic yet, but I hope the wheel/pedal
unit will make it easier to navigate.

Bill.

Along with the 2 <so far> responses you got in reference to Wheel lock
and verifying that linear steering is enabled  (both good advice) I
gotta throw my spark plug in the pile:

Having just gotten the T-2 myself, I really love the thing. Extreme's
setup would prolly be better but WAY outta my price range. Enuff of
that tho.

After getting the T-2 setup on my desk and loading up nascar, I
quickly loaded up a track and went for a drive. It looked (and
sounded) like I was driving with the monitor off <G>.

I consider myself to be real strong at bristol and a 'few' others.
And  the result was pretty much what it sounds like your going thru.
Remember IN the box and ON the box where they talk about the
possibilty of needing a stand alone game port card?? Welp, I decided
that they where trying to sell me something else that I didn't need. I
was obviously run, I run NASCAR (happily) on a DX4 100 with 12 megs
RAM and a puny 14" Monitor (unhappily). I did alot of playing around
with different calibration utilities that I have and did indeed notice
a serious calibration problem running the T-2 thru my sound card.
 I dunno that that is your problem, but look into it.

After killing myself with Race #2 and varied practice for NASSCAR
I quickly went to Wal-Mart this afternoon and got a CH Products
"Game Card III"  CPU speed detecting (automatic too!) game card.
End result was Night and Day!!  $25 I wish I'd spent when I got the
T-2. This is not too downgrade thrustmasters card but I checked them
both out and A) didn't notice any big difference in the SPecs on each
card and  B) personally I didn't want a speed switch*** in with
the rest of the spagetti wiring from My PC. I ran the #3 race today
and while I would have prefered a much better finish. I did notice a
very big difference in "MY" driving ability again. I was happy with
the T-2 before but now I am thrilled with it .  Check into it :)

PS - If ya DO get this card E-mail me and I'll save ya some
aggrivation with the card setup BEFORE you close your PC back up!

Andy A

That's interesting.  All my setups tightened up after I hooked up my T2.
I had to loosen up almost all my setups except for Bristol and Talladega.

i think it may have something to do about the way you drive the car with
the wheel as opposed to the joystick.

arzee

But once you get used to it, you'll find that two-footed driving will let
you balance the car a lot better through the turns.

I had to adjust all my setups after switching to a wheel/pedal combo. But
after a few hours of practicing, my lap times went up significantly.

I've found it a lot easier to work through traffic, especially at
Martinsville. You can work the inside of the straights and leave your left
foot poised to slam on the brakes in case an AI car cuts you off in the
corner.

Dave

By the way, what is the wheel lock-to-lock angle on the T2? Is it 90 degrees?
180 degrees?

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-Jim

Joe

I'd guess at about 270 degrees of lock to lock.  It also has a variable
resistance as you turn.  So initially it's a good idea to leave a lot of
lock there so that you aren't killing your arms holding the wheel to one
side as you turn (now I know why the drivers are big into physical fitness -
even with power steering turning that beast for a couple of hours will
definitely wear on you.

Mike

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In my case, yes.  I'd imagine that it's a frequent occurance.

Yep.  First thing you have to adjust is steering lock.  Then get a feel for
what the car is doing.  Then start messing with the setup.

It will.  Trust me.  

Mike

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___/ \___ Speed Bump Motorsports...  The name says it all.
NRL95 #110 Hershey's Kiss Chevrolet Monte Carlo
PRO95 #53 Hershey's Kiss Penske PC23/Ilmor D
SIMCAR96 #45 Hershey's Kiss Pontiac Grand Prix
IVGA #2027 (membership, not the car!)

I completely agree with Brian. Using button to accelerate is
definitely the fastest way to get around the tracks in Nascar (Watkins
Glen and Sears Point are so/so in my opinion).

Here is something concrete to back up my opinion. My best time at
Bristol is 134.783 (using button for acceleration) with the very same
setup (using pedal for acceleration) I am about a mile off the pace.
Of course someone out there will say that I am a lousy driver who
doesn't know how to use a pedal properly. To that I don't have
anything to say except my lap time.

Pekka Heino

"Flyin'Finn"
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