You also got a good point there Larry. A typical clash of interests :-)
> The problem is he was blocking cars that weren't even on the same lap as
he
> was after his pit strategy. It did him no good whatsoever, increased
> tensions that didn't need to be increased, and had potential to mess up
> those that _were_ racing amongst each other. We were a lot faster than he
> was because we did pit, and it created a mis-match in the group of car.
> He should have just let us go by and have our own race. We were no threat
> to him.
> If I was trying to overtake him for position this late in the race I
> wouldn't have any problem with it, but that was not the case.
> -Larry
> > Jon,
> > I was explained by the Nascar experts some time ago that some blocking
on
> > the last one or two laps is acceptable.
> > I can't talk about how you pulled it off as I wasn't there, and you can
> > always discuss the pros and cons of a strategy or move, but I can't find
> > anything majorly wrong about what you intended to do.
> > Achim
> > > First off, sincerest apologies to Uwe for spinning you out. Was not
> > > intentional, was completely my fault, and if there was any justice in
> this
> > > cruel world, I would have spun out with you and finished dead last.
> Sorry.
> > > > Actually, Joon actively blocked me in order to keep me "between him
> and
> > > > 2nd place (who was not near close enough to catch him before the end
> of
> > > > the race). I actually rear-ended him as we exited turn 2 with one
> lap
> > > > to go because he was trying to run the low line. I was clearly
faster
> > > > and was beginning to make the pass on him (I was 3 laps down in 8th
> > > > place), yet he insisted on blocking me. He almost got spun out for
> his
> > > > trouble.
> > > Allow me to explain.........
> > > Midway through the race I decided to take a gamble on pit strategy. No
> one
> > > seemed to be pitting on that last caution we had, and I thought might
> just
> > > be able to make it from there while everyone else would still need to
> stop
> > > again. Luckily I was right about that. Please understand that by the
> time
> > we
> > > got to the last 3 or 4 laps, I did not have a car capable of being
very
> > > competitive.
> > > Though I did indeed desperately want to keep someone (preferably as
many
> > > people as possible) between me and zugzug, that does not mean that I
was
> > > going to prevent you from passing at all costs. All you had to do to
> pass
> > me
> > > was do what LBT Racer did... get alongside me. Soon as he did that,
> > > it was his.
> > > Yes, I was running the low line. In the turns I really had no choice.
> When
> > > LBT and Bfarmer went by forcing me to go higher, it was all I could do
> to
> > > keep from riding the wall. Yes I was slower than you -- I had to let
off
> > the
> > > throttle
> > > sooner and get back on it later than you, both to conserve gas and to
> stay
> > > low.
> > > If you had chosen to take your fresh tires to the high line in a turn,
> you
> > > were more than welcome to it.
> > > Understand that normally I would pull over and let a faster car by,
> > > *especially* if we were not on the same lap. This was different. I was
> in
> > > first place at the end of
> > > the race, I could see the second place car in my rear view mirror.
> Whether
> > > he actually posed a threat or not I would only know in hindsight. All
I
> > knew
> > > at the moment was that you were serving nicely as an obstacle for him
to
> > get
> > > by before I would have to worry about him, and if you didn't like the
> > > position you were in you could darn well earn your way out of it. I
was
> > not
> > > going to lift my skirt hem and give it to you.
> > > Now about this business of you rear ending me. I have watched this
> replay
> > > from nearly every view over and over and over, and I can state with no
> > trace
> > > of uncertainty, that this was just plain foolishness on my part. The
> plan
> > > was to come out of the turn in the center of the track and hold it
there
> > til
> > > the next turn. What I did not realize until after the fact was that I
> was
> > > giving absolutely no room for you to drift up the track, which you did
> > with
> > > uncanny precision. Perhaps it was my inexperience at sim racing which
> led
> > to
> > > this grievous error on my part; maybe it was the fact that I was flush
> > with
> > > e***ment at the prospect of my first ever online win. Regardless, I
> > > screwed up there, and all the weak excuses I could muster in a
lifetime
> > > would not change that. I definitely should have given room at that
> point,
> > > and I apologize for not doing so. Thankfully fate allowed me to learn
my
> > > lesson without wrecking the both of us.
> > > > This goes to prove that blocking in ANY way is NOT a good idea when
> > > > you're racing online. Joon's connection was pretty flakey too, and
if
> > > > he had warped when I was trying to pass him, he'd have wrecked us
> both.
> > > > He had been told about his connection a couple of times during the
> race.
> > > > I thought it was un-sporting, and dangerous besides.
> > > My connection was flakey? People told me about my connection several
> > times?
> > > Did anyone else see this? My latency showed a low green bar the whole
> > race.
> > > On my end there was a minimal amount of lag between us -- the only
> person
> > I
> > > saw in the whole race with lag of any consequence was I think #37, or
> > maybe
> > > it was #39. Naturally this can be different from person to person, and
I
> > > suspect in your case may have been magnified by a deep dislike of
having
> > to
> > > pass someone without knowing ahead of time that it's a sure thing,
> though
> > I
> > > will admit this is pure speculation on my part.
> > > In closing allow me to quote from a post you made several days
> ago.......
> > > "What they're talking about is staying on the bottom all the way
around
> > > the track. That's not racing (at least not in my book). Technically,
> > > it also isn't blocking, but it *is* bad form."
> > > I can see why you don't like it. I can see why you say it is bad form.
I
> > > also could see that if you added up all the ***, fuel, and bad form
I
> > had
> > > at the end of this race, 'bout ALL you would have is bad form.
> > > Would I do it again? you can bet your sweet bippy's......
