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Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

Douglas Elliso

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 00:16:01

OK -  I like my MSFF's pedals. (best of the lot before you hit big
land) - but I fancy a Momo wheel ( down to 99 at PC World - anyone know
anywhere cheaper)

As we all know - the Momo's pedals are worse than ***- so - does anyone
know a way of rigging the MSFF pedals to work with the Momo wheel?

Cheers

Doug

Larr

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Larr » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:27:06

If you find out, let me know :)

-Larry


Jone Tytlandsvi

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Jone Tytlandsvi » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:37:14

I got the same idea when I read the Momo vs. MSFF thread today. I have an MS
FF wheel and would like to get a MOMO, but I have not done it yet because of
the bad pedals.

It won't be a matter of cutting and connecting wires though. The momo uses
regular potmeters, while the MSFF uses optical encoders. You would need some
electronics to interface the MS pedals to the MOMO wheel. Maybe a small
microprocessor and two digital potmeters. It would even be possible to
calibrate the pedals in hardware to get rid of the F1 2001 "half travel"
bug.
Maybe I should look into this. After all the alternative would be quite
expensive pedals like BRD.
How much would you be willing to pay? :)

Jone.

Douglas Elliso

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 08:27:55

Well - 120ish for the BRD Pro pedals - on top of the 100 for the momo
wheel

Or 250+ for Speed 7 Pedals, and 100 on top for the Momo wheel.

I'm tempted

Doug

Steve Smit

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Steve Smit » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 09:44:33

Hell-O!  The MOMO wheel is better than the MSFT, IMO.  All you need to do is
use it in conjunction with TSW or BRD pedals and you have a winning
combination.


Douglas Elliso

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 10:10:24

No doubting the Momo wheel is the best with FF.

BUT - I'd rather just shell out the 99 for the wheel and use my lovely
MSFF's pedals
( www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~djelliso/pedals.jpg  - moi - modding my
pedals - As if !)

BUT  - I may well go down the Momo - BRD-Pro route for about 220 all up

DOug


> Hell-O!  The MOMO wheel is better than the MSFT, IMO.  All you need to do
is
> use it in conjunction with TSW or BRD pedals and you have a winning
> combination.



> > > How much would you be willing to pay? :)

> > Well - 120ish for the BRD Pro pedals - on top of the 100 for the momo
> > wheel

> > Or 250+ for Speed 7 Pedals, and 100 on top for the Momo wheel.

> > I'm tempted

> > Doug

JTBur

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by JTBur » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 10:11:07

Steve -

Does the MOMO wheel and the BRD pedals work together "right out of the box",
or would I need to find an electronics genius to make them work as a unit?

Thanks,

Todd


> Hell-O!  The MOMO wheel is better than the MSFT, IMO.  All you need to do
is
> use it in conjunction with TSW or BRD pedals and you have a winning
> combination.



> > > How much would you be willing to pay? :)

> > Well - 120ish for the BRD Pro pedals - on top of the 100 for the momo
> > wheel

> > Or 250+ for Speed 7 Pedals, and 100 on top for the Momo wheel.

> > I'm tempted

> > Doug

Larr

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Larr » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 11:49:16

No one has ever argued this point :)

-Larry


> Hell-O!  The MOMO wheel is better than the MSFT, IMO.  All you need to do
is
> use it in conjunction with TSW or BRD pedals and you have a winning
> combination.



> > > How much would you be willing to pay? :)

> > Well - 120ish for the BRD Pro pedals - on top of the 100 for the momo
> > wheel

> > Or 250+ for Speed 7 Pedals, and 100 on top for the Momo wheel.

> > I'm tempted

> > Doug

Norman Blac

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Norman Blac » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:19:07

The MSFF pedals use pots. Only the wheel uses an optical encoder. At
least that is the case for my pedals. I have the USB variant of the
wheel.

Norman


Jone Tytlandsvi

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Jone Tytlandsvi » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 17:00:43


It does?
Should be quite easy then. Worst case you would have to change the pots to
match the resistor value of the Momo pots.

Jone.

Steve Smit

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Steve Smit » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:32:48

Todd,

It's electrical, not electronics (unless yer trying to mate MS's optical
parts w. 3rd-party electrical pots - virtually impossible IMO).

What should work right outta the box is hooking up the TSW or BRD pedals as
a second controller ID in Windows (I think you need the little Radio Shack
gameport-to-USB dongle).  However, some games (I don't have a list) will
recognize 2 controllers, some won't.  I don't know about rewiring the BRD
pedals, but it's not rocket science with the TSWs (I don't have a
schematic).  You can't use the MOMO pots because they go thru a much smaller
arc than they do (mechanically) when mounted in the TSW pedal box, although
if you are adept at editing the Registry, you could.  Since Logi pots aren't
noted for their longevity, you'd be better off using mil-spec pots of the
proper resistance, which will last forever (the ones in my "other"
controller, an ECCI, lasted for 4 years of daily use before needing
ereplacement).

The coolest part is the way the MOMO pedal pads look on the TSW pedal arms.

TSW has the best customer of anybody in the computer business, IMO.

--Steve


> Steve -

> Does the MOMO wheel and the BRD pedals work together "right out of the
box",
> or would I need to find an electronics genius to make them work as a unit?

> Thanks,

> Todd



> > Hell-O!  The MOMO wheel is better than the MSFT, IMO.  All you need to
do
> is
> > use it in conjunction with TSW or BRD pedals and you have a winning
> > combination.



> > > > How much would you be willing to pay? :)

> > > Well - 120ish for the BRD Pro pedals - on top of the 100 for the
momo
> > > wheel

> > > Or 250+ for Speed 7 Pedals, and 100 on top for the Momo wheel.

> > > I'm tempted

> > > Doug

Steve Smit

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Steve Smit » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:33:27

Then I'm wrong.


> > It won't be a matter of cutting and connecting wires though. The momo
> uses
> > regular potmeters, while the MSFF uses optical encoders.

> The MSFF pedals use pots. Only the wheel uses an optical encoder. At
> least that is the case for my pedals. I have the USB variant of the
> wheel.

> Norman



> > > As we all know - the Momo's pedals are worse than ***- so - does
> anyone
> > > know a way of rigging the MSFF pedals to work with the Momo wheel?

> > I got the same idea when I read the Momo vs. MSFF thread today. I have
> an MS
> > FF wheel and would like to get a MOMO, but I have not done it yet
> because of
> > the bad pedals.

> > It won't be a matter of cutting and connecting wires though. The momo
> uses
> > regular potmeters, while the MSFF uses optical encoders. You would
> need some
> > electronics to interface the MS pedals to the MOMO wheel. Maybe a
> small
> > microprocessor and two digital potmeters. It would even be possible to
> > calibrate the pedals in hardware to get rid of the F1 2001 "half
> travel"
> > bug.
> > Maybe I should look into this. After all the alternative would be
> quite
> > expensive pedals like BRD.
> > How much would you be willing to pay? :)

> > Jone.

Steve Smit

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Steve Smit » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:34:08

Plus dope out the wiring diagram.




> > > It won't be a matter of cutting and connecting wires though. The momo
> > uses
> > > regular potmeters, while the MSFF uses optical encoders.

> > The MSFF pedals use pots. Only the wheel uses an optical encoder. At
> > least that is the case for my pedals. I have the USB variant of the
> > wheel.

> It does?
> Should be quite easy then. Worst case you would have to change the pots to
> match the resistor value of the Momo pots.

> Jone.

Douglas Elliso

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:32:11


Yeah - but you're allowed to be.  Your book takes pride of place as #1
reading material in my mates bog :D

Every time I go for a...

On 2nd thoughts - dont think that

Doug

Steve Smit

Momo wheel / MSFF pedals

by Steve Smit » Thu, 06 Jun 2002 04:41:07

Thx, Doug (blushes)




> > Then I'm wrong.

> Yeah - but you're allowed to be.  Your book takes pride of place as #1
> reading material in my mates bog :D

> Every time I go for a...

> On 2nd thoughts - dont think that

> Doug


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