rec.autos.simulators

logitech momo vs. msff wheel

Brian Bowle

logitech momo vs. msff wheel

by Brian Bowle » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 23:04:06

I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitech momo
wheel to those of you who have had both of these. I think I am about to buy
one. My microsoft wheel has been fine, but I do dont think it was ever as
good as my red logitech wheel. I just want some opinions. Also are the
pedals better than the old pedals from the logitech red wheel? Stiff springs
or more throw?
Thanks!!!
Douglas Elliso

logitech momo vs. msff wheel

by Douglas Elliso » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 23:09:36


Well - I have an MSFF sat beside my desk, the Momo ON my desk.

Wheel - the Momo wheel is a lot nice imho - just a better feel - better FF -
more accurate somehow.

As for the pedals - I used Speed 7's - but before they arrived I used the
MSFF still attached to the machine just to use it's pedals with the Momo
wheel - who's pedals are tucked up againast the wall. I found them truely
horrid.

For the plastic-brigade - the MSFF pedals are probably as good as it gets

Doug

The Other Larr

logitech momo vs. msff wheel

by The Other Larr » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 04:48:49

I have a 2 year old MSFFW that is still in flawless condition after 2 years
of heavy use.

I purchased a Momo for the same reason you are considering, to maybe get
something better.

Well, the wheel is indeed a bit better.  It's too early to answer the
reliability question, but it is a bit more precise, has better shifters,
etc... Many, including myself, have trouble with the buttons.  They are a
lot harder to reach and after using a MSFFW for 2 years + it takes a lot of
practice to get it right.

Now for the bad news.  The Pedals.

The pedals on the Momo are totally horrible.  Just a completely botched
design.  The throw is too short, the swivel angles are all wrong, the thrust
angles are all wrong, and they stick like crazy sometimes.  Also, the cord
coming up from the pedals to the wheel is too short for a lot of folks I've
talked to.

If you drive a Tractor for a living, and have small feet, you might like
them :)

The Momo I bought lasted on my desk for 1 day.  Since then, it was put back
in the box with about 3 hours use on it and the MSFFW has been put back into
service.  The Momo is still in the box as an emergency set, or until I find
someone locally to buy it.

This isn't the first time I've bought a new wheel/pedal set to 'upgrade'
from the MSFFW, where the new one didn't last any time and the MSFFW always
ends up back on the desk.

I finally decided that this was trying to tell me something, and I just
forgot about replacing it.  Been happy every since I quit thinking about it
:)

-Larry


Jon Anderse

logitech momo vs. msff wheel

by Jon Anderse » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 05:14:19



If you're MSFF isn't broken, don't buy the MOMO. I bought the MOMO, after my
MSFF brake pedal broke during a full GP race in GPL at Silverstone
(%#"%!). The MOMO has made GPL less fun :-(

The wheel is fine. It is better than the MSFF. It simply just feels more
right. I guess it's got more precision. But the pedals.... MOMO pedals are
inferior to the MSFF pedals. Somehow Logitech figured that pivoting pedals
would outweigh the disadvantagages of short pedal travel. Why didn't they
think of increasing pedal travel instead? The pivoting pedals are hard to
get used to, at least if your racing without shoes.

The pedals of the MOMO are really bad. It's a shame, really - 'cause the
wheel itself is superb. The only ones that probably are very happy with MOMO
pedals, are BRM. They probably sold a lot of Speed 7 pedals to frustrated
MOMO owners.

Jon Andersen

Steve Smit

logitech momo vs. msff wheel

by Steve Smit » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:05:44

The MOMO wheel is so superior to other wheels, it's worth it to find a
better pedal set.  I'm using the TSW pedals (with the MOMO pedal pads) and
the combination is flawless.  There are other pedals that will either work
outta the box with the MOMO (in a separate ID) or can easily be incorporated
into the MOMO circuitry.  It's possible just to remove the MOMO pots and
insert them into another pedal set (like, say, the BRD).  A little tweaking
(with Registry values if yer brave, DXTweak2 if your not) and away you go.
My MOMO/TSW combo is the first FF setup that's been faster than my old,
reliable ECCI.

--Steve Smith




> > I currently have a micorosoft ff wheel. How much better is the logitech
> momo
> > wheel to those of you who have had both of these. I think I am about to
> buy
> > one. My microsoft wheel has been fine, but I do dont think it was ever
as
> > good as my red logitech wheel. I just want some opinions. Also are the
> > pedals better than the old pedals from the logitech red wheel? Stiff
> springs
> > or more throw?
> > Thanks!!!

> If you're MSFF isn't broken, don't buy the MOMO. I bought the MOMO, after
my
> MSFF brake pedal broke during a full GP race in GPL at Silverstone
> (%#"%!). The MOMO has made GPL less fun :-(

> The wheel is fine. It is better than the MSFF. It simply just feels more
> right. I guess it's got more precision. But the pedals.... MOMO pedals are
> inferior to the MSFF pedals. Somehow Logitech figured that pivoting pedals
> would outweigh the disadvantagages of short pedal travel. Why didn't they
> think of increasing pedal travel instead? The pivoting pedals are hard to
> get used to, at least if your racing without shoes.

> The pedals of the MOMO are really bad. It's a shame, really - 'cause the
> wheel itself is superb. The only ones that probably are very happy with
MOMO
> pedals, are BRM. They probably sold a lot of Speed 7 pedals to frustrated
> MOMO owners.

> Jon Andersen


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