rec.autos.simulators

For those games I've used a home made splitter cable with which I can
set up the pedals as a 2nd joystick all using the same game port on my
SBlive as the msff, with the help of a couple of programs called rbfix
and thrustmaster pro panel. Only problem with this was that I couldn't
use split axis and have FF at the same time. That is why I looked for an
alternative

So only problem is if a game doesn't calibrate joysticks and allow the
use of 2 joysticks I have to use the MS pedals that came with the wheel,
But usually those games are very arcadey and the pedals aren't a
problem.

I was very pleased when I realised that the connection for the pedals to
the wheel is actually exactly the same as a super-VHS connector which
made things very easy.

If any1 is interested I'll explain how to wire it up.
--
Vince Fisher

I would love to be able to keep using my current pedals of my T2
wheel (I have modified the pedals for split axis) with whichever
FF wheel I buy once the 1.1 patch is out.

Please send or post the details, many thanks in advance.

Seeyas on the track.

--John (Joao) Silva

OK I'll try and explain, might be easier to send a diagram.

FF wheel connector

        2       3

        1       4

        pot 1                           pot 2
        A       B       C               D       E       F      

connect         1       -       E
                2       -       C
                C       -       D
                A       -       F
                3       -       A
                4       -       B

I bought a S-VHS cable and cut off 1 end. This had 2 cables 1 red and 1
white, and inside each was another cable these were wired up as follows.

FF wheel connector

        2 inner red     3 inner white

        1 outer red     4 outer black

If any1 can find a way of calibrating it in win9* that would be great.
Might just be a registry hack.

Actually I think that came out quite clear ( I hope so)
If U have anymore ?'s feel free to ask ( I will help if I can )
Vince Fisher

If you get a USB wheel, e.g. Logitech, you can use it together with the gameport
connected T2. No rewiring, works fine in GPL. You can use the Logitech pedal as
a clutch for better starts.

The only problem I noticed is that the T2 gameport control in Windows 98 must be
installed before the Logitech gameport driver is installed. If the Logitech is
installed first, Windows refuses to detect the T2. Your mileage may vary.

Keith.

Absolutely right Keith.
And of course if u can find a USB to Joystick converter that will work
also ( I haven't been able to find one in the UK yet, seen some
advertised in the US) that's why I've had to use the re-wiring, which is
incredibly easy also. You could plug the T2 pedals into the USB
converter and the FF device into the usual gameport if its anything like
the MSFF wheel which needs midi connected to use FF.
This way is only any good for games that allow use of more than 1
joystick I.e. which hopefully more and more will.

I think its a great shame that programmers cant write there games like
GPL where you can calibrate and set up any axis available for use.
GPL really shows them all how it should be done.

The re-wiring is really for people who already own a MSFF wheel and
aren't happy with those pedals , which I should think is most of them
:-)  and also haven't got the USB option.

The wiring way I have shown would be perfect for all games if there was
some way to calibrate them in windows, because it would all be as 1
joystick. So if any1 has any ideas I'd really appreciate hearing them.
Since it can be done in games like GPL there must be a way to do it in
windows, maybe just a registry hack?
--
Vince Fisher

IIRC, Maplin ( http://www.maplin.co.uk ) had them around
Christmas.......

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Thanks.

Seeyas on the track.

--John (Joao) Silva

Thanks for passing on the info, hope to make my decision on which FF wheel
soon.

Seeyas on the track.

--John (Joao) Silva

-Larry

I test-drove the Logitech, Thrustmaster Force, some wheel from CH, and
some cheapie one and the Microsoft, while being the second most
expensive, was easily the best of the bunch. Of course, all of this is
just my humble opinion.

-Bill