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is this guy a joke or is he,lets give some info

Don Wilshe, IVGA

PS.     VLX400... You got a name ????

All the cheaters on Hawaii should be ashamed for letting a large group
of "completely legit drivers" whip them with the old fashioned
"right-line!"

They haven't even made 15s yet and they can't even hold a qualifying
record!  No wonder Papyrus doesn't feel the need to do anything about
them!   .....RIGHT?

Viper

     I dont know how funny he is but he's certainly one of the more
"creative" racers to grace the shores of our virtual HAWAII.  

     I myself am not much of a computer person, bought my first one when
Nascar 1 came out, but I DO know when I've been snookered, and in the
last year and a half of watching replays I've NEVER seen anyone else have
the "setup" talent to make their car LUNGE out of the turns at Atlanta at
speeds that go from 168 to 218 mph in bursts of speed that would amaze
any roadrunner.

     Unfortunately, because of my lack of computer knowledge, I cant
prove what this good ole boy is doing, but I wont ever get on a track
with him again if I can help it. Anybody that can make up 5 seconds on
the leader in 4 laps with a car that had been in 3 wrecks and then take
the lead and the win on the final lap is definitley in a "class" by
themselves. And just for the record....he was removed from the league
that this race occurred in because of its suspect nature.

     I will let the replay speak for itself, you make up your own mind.
Let me know if you desire a copy.    

     tom

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no mr.don wilishe i do not have a name .actually i do have a name it is
SMOKKINU .BUT LIKE U DIDNT KNOW WHO VLX400 WAS HUH DON .
ya we all know how u lie to everyone don .
you have to stop doing that

Don don't give me this ***about Huggins about him being legit we all know
he cheats he has admitted to it once to me GT86 once when he was under the
name of Tester01 and I don't care how fast his setups are he will not pull
1 sec on 1 car in fact let alone 2 cars in draft or even 3 in a draft in a
lap and I have seen him do it many times he has done it to me he cheats and
he is a loser because he doesn't admit it and if anyone defend him for this
because I don't have hard prove besides his speed and his words about his
cheating but as I was saying if anyone defends him is a loser to I guess he
doesn't cheat like Cmone wasn't stealing setups right!!!! By the way I
thought you was a stand up guy until this and all the negative NRO stuff
you have been posting lately I have no idea where you get your info but you
need a new source because most (99%) of the ***you post about the NRO and
TEN is that crap.

PS VLX400 is your olsd Buddy Smokkinu my teammate and by far the best team
on Hawaii with Mharris except fpr two other great rcaers MAxwell and
Moxopal which none of us need to cheat to win.

Robert (GT86)

<good stuff snipped> I've NEVER seen anyone else have

Hey Tom!
Missed you in SIMRACING chat the other nite. Hang in there! Anyway, I'd
like to see a clip of that replay. Could you send it to me or post it in the
autos binaries news group. Thanks.

Member -Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal

I was saying if anyone defends him is a loser to I guess he
doesn't cheat like Cmone wasn't stealing setups right!!!!

Uhhh...  I don't know what I did to you to start this! Stop playing
with yourself in the bathroom:)  You've got too much time on your
hands to attack people without cause!

grammar teachers around the world to have a major coronary with this
run-on sentence:

OK Robert... Take a deep breath.  Remember to breathe both in and out
while speaking... :)
July 4-5 Firecracker 400    (It will never be the Pepsi to me :-) !!!)
Roberts sec. N-O   UP HIGH!!!!!!!
GO RUSTY  #2 #2 #2 #2 #2 !!!!!
Matthew

Jim!  Ed!

Hurry up with that patch and the NROS!  Hurry!
At this rate half the contingent of Hawaii drivers
are going to have n-n-n-nervous b-b-breakdowns!!!

LOL  :-)  teehee haha <G>

David T.

I've also got several replays from the races we've done, but i can't say
i've noticed anything suspicious - am i missing something?

Please send me that replay - will you?

--
Ed_ - Norway

"Early on, the cars were getting faster and faster.  And with
good reason:  everybody was cheating."   - Richard Petty

For what it's worth-

I've Raced with huggins on a number of occasions and found him to be a
very "GOOD" driver. Based on my experiece with Hawaii, this is not always
the case. Huggins will hold his line, but he will give you racing room. As
you all know, this is to often the exception and not the norm. As you also
know, "GOOD" drivers go FAST. For what it's worth, Huggins was kind enough
to share some setup tips and driving tecniques with me that greatly
improved my performance. Perhaps if you would follow his lines and
experiment with your setups your performance might improve as well.
Otherwise, you could just throw rocks at him in the newsgroup while he's
practicing and getting faster - Just a thought.

Beware the Red Bowtie (#3)

Kevin Weidner

I heard he was a tester for  papy to see how people could cheat. that way
they can stop people from really cheating/

just a ruor but...

Hi Tom! How goes the battle! :)  There are times when one has signed
a NDA that one really has to bite their tongue! There are those that
have
the talent to setup a car to go fast, there are those that have driving
ability
that can make that car go fast, there are those that can edit files, run
TSR's
cut through pits on qual, hit esc keys at the right moment, alter packet
sizes
write custom code but trying to figure out who is doing what is very
difficult!
There are those that are very good drivers who don't have to cheat to
win but
gee, if I'm down a lap and and I might drop a rating and I know what is
required
with my little ace in the hole, ah just this once I'll never do this
again! :)

        This message isn't intended to anyone in particular but I have had
email
from many and even had a few high ranked racers admit they used to cheat
but
don't anymore! For what its worth big brother has watched and has
learned and even
though he chooses to be quiet will reward those that have participated!
        To those who have achieved greatness without using the above or other
likemind methods I salute you.

Regards Pete

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