rec.autos.simulators

by **David No** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:10:39

<Deja Vu>
The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to evaluate
the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator lift
results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control
config........If not I won't bother.

DN

by **David G Fishe** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:20:36

You've probably explained it correctly, but I don't understand what the
problem is. What is locking up when you lift off the accelerator?

David G Fisher

by **Ashley McConnel** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:30:00

The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to put on
full brakes

Ash

| <Deja Vu>
| The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to
evaluate
| the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator
lift
| results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control
| config........If not I won't bother.
|
| DN
|
|

by **ymenar** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:35:10

> The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to put
on
> full brakes

Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **scrc** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 21:42:41

What's this ? I just downloaded the game ! If tthis is true I sure hope the
fix this when the game comes in a final version.

Did anyone actually get it to work with split axis at all ?

scrcs

> > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to
put
> on
> > full brakes

> Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Greg Cisk** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:02:55

It may be a feature. It was for Psygnosis F1 a few years ago.

--

> What's this ? I just downloaded the game ! If tthis is true I sure hope
the
> fix this when the game comes in a final version.

> Did anyone actually get it to work with split axis at all ?

> scrcs

> > > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to
> put
> > on
> > > full brakes

> > Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...
> > -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise
how
> > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Dom Duha** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:04:01

Y the reason it does that is cos split axis hasnt been implemented properly
yet...brakes will automatically come on when the throttle has been lifted,
if you have split the axis

dom

> > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to
put
> on
> > full brakes

> Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Remco Moe** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:14:46

>> The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to put
>on
>> full brakes

>Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag.

Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed
about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good
actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on.
The controller setup however.....

No, I don't have a magic trick how to solve the problem. Just play
around until it finally works.... :-(

Remco

by **Incubu** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:20:36

Yup...what he said.

I've got the MS non ff wheel........set the wheel properties to "combined"
(ie, not split axis), and when you lift off the accelerator, the brakes wont
come on.

> Y the reason it does that is cos split axis hasnt been implemented
properly
> yet...brakes will automatically come on when the throttle has been lifted,
> if you have split the axis

> dom

> > > The same happens to me....when I lift off the accelerator it seems to
> put
> > on
> > > full brakes

> > Yep same here, and no this ain't mechanical braking and aero drag.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...
> > -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise
how
> > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Jag** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:18:43

spoke:

I just tried the demo yesterday and it felt to me like the car was
raised a foot off the road. No feeling for the road at all. Lowering
ABS and slide control won't fix that at all.

--
Jagg

by **David No** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:48:46

Yeah, instant brakes upon accellerator lift, I just ran a lap at Spa and
didn't even touch the brake pedal. I just read where setting combined axes
will correct that problem but it amazes me that there continues to be games
released without split axes support.

DN

> You've probably explained it correctly, but I don't understand what the
> problem is. What is locking up when you lift off the accelerator?

> David G Fisher

> > <Deja Vu>
> > The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to
> evaluate
> > the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator
> lift
> > results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control
> > config........If not I won't bother.

> > DN

by **David No** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:53:01

Are your pedals configured to separate axes?

DN

by **David G Fishe** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:53:35

It does have split axis support. Something is wrong with the way the demo is
working with your setup. It is a beta demo so it's not a surprise. Try the
high Gear forums and see if anyone can help. www.simracingnews.com

David G Fisher

> Yeah, instant brakes upon accellerator lift, I just ran a lap at Spa and
> didn't even touch the brake pedal. I just read where setting combined axes
> will correct that problem but it amazes me that there continues to be
games
> released without split axes support.

> DN

> > You've probably explained it correctly, but I don't understand what the
> > problem is. What is locking up when you lift off the accelerator?

> > David G Fisher

> > > <Deja Vu>
> > > The combination of dual axis and forced ABS makes it impossible to
> > evaluate
> > > the physics model. Even with ABS set at 40% the slightest accellerator
> > lift
> > > results in a lockup. I hope I've missed something during control
> > > config........If not I won't bother.

> > > DN

by **ymenar** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:13:10

> It does have split axis support. Something is wrong with the way the demo
is
> working with your setup.

Your right about that. Here's my setup :

Joystick 1 X-axis : Wheel
Joystick 1 Y-axis : non-separate pedals
Joystick 2 X-axis : CH pedals gas
Joystick 2 Y-axis : CH pedals brake

Anyway, saying that it does have split axis support doesn't mean it models
correctly the usage of two pedals at the same time. F1RC is growing on me,
but if they can fix that it won't be long installed.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Remco Moe** » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:01:18

>> Your controller isn't setup right :-( I had the same problem, I needed
>> about an hour to get it right. Physics in F1RC are ok, quite good
>> actually, so far I can tell with the ABS and slide control mode on.
>> The controller setup however.....

>> No, I don't have a magic trick how to solve the problem. Just play
>> around until it finally works.... :-(
>Are your pedals configured to separate axes?

Yes, they are.

Remco

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