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> I will suggest they will have to change that as vista sales will be hit
> *** that single issue alone
Mitch
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_licensing.asp
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Mitch
>>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Well, that is even more ***from Microsoft. They are saying even retail XP
> is tied to a single device. Why the *** would we buy retail copies of XP
> if it is tied to a single device just like OEM? They are just backtracking
> and trying to confuse the issue.
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Scott B. Husted
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>> Well, that is even more ***from Microsoft. They are saying even retail
>> XP
>> is tied to a single device. Why the *** would we buy retail copies of XP
>> if it is tied to a single device just like OEM? They are just
>> backtracking
>> and trying to confuse the issue.
> I just replaced a Hard Drive (not my primary, a second drive) and added a
> gigabit NIC card and I had to re-activate Windows. Had no problem doing
> so, but I did have to do it. It's the first time I've had to do it, but I
> guess I'm one of the stupid people who actually owns and paid for 3 Retail
> copies of Win XP Pro. ;)
> --
> Scott B. Husted
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>>>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>> Well, that is even more ***from Microsoft. They are saying even retail
>>> XP
>>> is tied to a single device. Why the *** would we buy retail copies of
>>> XP
>>> if it is tied to a single device just like OEM? They are just
>>> backtracking
>>> and trying to confuse the issue.
>> I just replaced a Hard Drive (not my primary, a second drive) and added a
>> gigabit NIC card and I had to re-activate Windows. Had no problem doing
>> so, but I did have to do it. It's the first time I've had to do it, but
>> I guess I'm one of the stupid people who actually owns and paid for 3
>> Retail copies of Win XP Pro. ;)
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>> Scott B. Husted
>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> I ONLY added a NIC card recently and had to re-activate. As you say, it
> was simple but also VERY petty on MS's part I thought.
How's this for petty - I updated the firmware of my DVD drive and had to
re-activate just a few weeks ago!
It will be interesting to see how far MS push the envelope. Are the poor
***ers starving over there are they?
Anyway, this is a side issue. The real issue is WTF does Vista have
which is worth paying for? Obviously there are always people who must
have the latest car/furniture/vid card/OS, but unlike previous upgrades
XP already provides a pretty solid base, and issues like security are
only issues to people who are careless.
I'll be interested to see how sales go in the first 12 months.
Andrew McP
>> I'ts nice when someone finally cuts right through the "net" bullshit.
> I don't see what's been clarified in that article. The entire point
> seems to be that the author doesn't give a shit about the small segment
> of the market that is effected in a bad way by the Windows EULA or
> product activation. It's less "this isn't true" and more "this doesn't
> effect me so why do I care".
The article is correct for most users and any general hysteria about
Vista licensing is unfounded, although for those with the nouse to
update their hardware on a regular basis it may be a different story...
>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Oh yea, thanks for that url. Lots of people are going to find this
> "interesting" too.
Mike
The likely reason that Byron and Scott had to re-activate when they changed
their NIC is that the NIC counts for three "votes".
See WPA info here:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
It'll be interesting if Vista will work the same way.
The article "debunking" licensing changes mentions that only 5% of PC owners
upgrade their own computers. That may be true but how many upgrade their
friends and relatives computers? I know that I've upgraded quite a few over
the years. Also, how many people take their machines in to a computer store
and have it upgraded.
Bill
>> I ONLY added a NIC card recently and had to re-activate.
> That's because XP keeps track of minor changes. When you accumulate
> enough small changes they add up to a big change and trigger activation.
> Anyway, this is a side issue. The real issue is WTF does Vista have
> which is worth paying for? Obviously there are always people who must
> have the latest car/furniture/vid card/OS, but unlike previous upgrades
> XP already provides a pretty solid base, and issues like security are
> only issues to people who are careless.
> I'll be interested to see how sales go in the first 12 months.
> Andrew McP