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Vista license agreement is a joke

Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:32:21

It's not about installing it on more than one machine at a time.

It's about:

1.  You build computer.
2.  You install Vista.
3.  6 months later, you upgrade motherboard.  Vista Re-Activates and this is
your ONE allowed transfer.
4.  6 months later you upgrade again.  You now need to go purchase a new
copy of Vista because you have used up your one allowed transfer.

That's what all the fuss is about.  This limitation never existed with
non-OEM versions of Windows in the past.

-Larry



>> As the article says it's no different than XP.  We (hobbyists) can still
>> call support and transfer the license.  MS simply clarified the EULA with
>> Vista (and added virtualization).  Personally I trust the author
>> P.Thurott(sp?) much more than a ignorant bullshit spreading punk like the
>> OP.

> Now that I've read the actual changes to the EULA, I have to admit I
> don't really see the big deal.  I can't say I've ever purchased an OS
> and installed it on more than one computer at a time, and I'm going to
> guess that MS will continue to sell site licenses as they've always
> done.

Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:33:20

Read section 15.

-Larry


Someon

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Someon » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:21:09

It's worse than that.
You build a new machine, install and activate Vista and then the motherboard
dies. You RMA it and install the new motherboard. That's it. You cant make
any changes now that would invoke product activation because the OS wont
work anymore. Forgot to install the nic before you activated? Tough luck, go
and buy Vista again.

Not going to do it. I can do everything I want on Linux (except play DX10
games) and I think it's time to look seriously at the upcoming generation of
consoles for games from now on (and that wont include XBox).


> It's not about installing it on more than one machine at a time.

> It's about:

> 1.  You build computer.
> 2.  You install Vista.
> 3.  6 months later, you upgrade motherboard.  Vista Re-Activates and this
> is your ONE allowed transfer.
> 4.  6 months later you upgrade again.  You now need to go purchase a new
> copy of Vista because you have used up your one allowed transfer.

> That's what all the fuss is about.  This limitation never existed with
> non-OEM versions of Windows in the past.

> -Larry




>>> As the article says it's no different than XP.  We (hobbyists) can still
>>> call support and transfer the license.  MS simply clarified the EULA
>>> with
>>> Vista (and added virtualization).  Personally I trust the author
>>> P.Thurott(sp?) much more than a ignorant bullshit spreading punk like
>>> the
>>> OP.

>> Now that I've read the actual changes to the EULA, I have to admit I
>> don't really see the big deal.  I can't say I've ever purchased an OS
>> and installed it on more than one computer at a time, and I'm going to
>> guess that MS will continue to sell site licenses as they've always
>> done.

Zed

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Zed » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:56:52

Unfortunately, it's all about stopping piracy. MS is determined to stop
people from pirating it's software.
Personally, I feel if MS really wants to stop piracy, it should price
it's OS's much cheaper. I wouldn't mind paying $25-50 for each copy, but
I refuse to pay $200 for each. That would be $800 for the 4 PC's I have.
That is why most people pirate.
I do believe greed is MS's prime concern with Vista. MS is carrying it's
monopoly way to far.
Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:14:07

Stopping piracy by stomping all over the honest customer doesn't make sense.

Unless you're a monopoly of course.


jason moye

Vista license agreement is a joke

by jason moye » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:09:55


> Read section 15.

Well that's certainly a giant load of crap.
jason moye

Vista license agreement is a joke

by jason moye » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:16:42


> I loved SS1 but disliked SS2, so I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Weird, I hated SS1 but love SS2 still. :D

How much of that is down to hardware support?  I mean, a set of freeBSD
iso's (which I love) is about half that, each set supports a single
architecture, and the hardware support is about as minimum as you can
get (I still can't use half the hardware I have, and I haven't done a
serious upgrade in almost 3 years).  Solaris for Intel is like what,
3-4 gigs now for the installer?  I seem to remember needing 5 or 6 CD's
to install that a year or so ago.  2.6 gigs for the installer for an OS
that supports multiple cpu's and every kind of hardware you can imagine
doesn't seem that big of a deal to me.  And really, even if the install
itself has a huge footprint, I'm more interested in kernel security and
efficient device access than hard drive space.

timmy thompso

Vista license agreement is a joke

by timmy thompso » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:35:36



>> Read section 15.

> Well that's certainly a giant load of crap.

ooh ooh ooh liberal!!!

-mitch a

Garro

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Garro » Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:42:57


> Stopping piracy by stomping all over the honest customer doesn't make sense.

Never has and never will. They are too dumb to get it.
Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:15:45

Thus the point of the conversation :)

-Larry



>> Read section 15.

> Well that's certainly a giant load of crap.

Byron Forbe

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:38:17



>> Stopping piracy by stomping all over the honest customer doesn't make
>> sense.

> Never has and never will. They are too dumb to get it.

    Do American's think the government should intervene here? Has the
government given the ***wits a legal pen (for the right price) and told
them they can write up any laws they like?

    WTF?

    Might be time for other governments to band together and form their own
software organization. All participating countries give their citizens this
OS FREE. I nominate Russia to get the ball rolling - a good communist
country! :) I think it's about time certain American and other capitolistic
country's businesses were conquered and dominated by communism! :)

    Go commies Go!

Byron Forbe

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:43:31

    My guess is that piracy will go thru the roof - as it should.

    Go Robin Hood! :)


Crispy Critte

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Crispy Critte » Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:19:27


> I'ts nice when someone finally cuts right through the "net" bullshit.

> Mitch

Yea, like this article does. As I told you, Paul Thurrott is a Microsoft
shill. Smelling that coffee yet?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=158

timmy thompso

Vista license agreement is a joke

by timmy thompso » Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:14:49



>> I'ts nice when someone finally cuts right through the "net" bullshit.

>> Mitch

> Yea, like this article does. As I told you, Paul Thurrott is a Microsoft
> shill. Smelling that coffee yet?

> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=158

Hey, where did Mitch go ???

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