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Vista license agreement is a joke

jason moye

Vista license agreement is a joke

by jason moye » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:29:27


>     I ONLY added a NIC card recently and had to re-activate. As you say, it
> was simple but also VERY petty on MS's part I thought.

Hopefully it wasn't a USB nic, since you wouldn't be able to activate
it online.
dorf

Vista license agreement is a joke

by dorf » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:53:21

On 15 Oct 2006 08:13:50 -0700,


> expensive, high system overhead, questionable usage allowances

> I think I'll pass on Vista- I was going to buy it for a newer
> supersystem, but maybe I'll just transfer my XP onto it instead

always wait for the first service
pak.
Steve Simpso

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Steve Simpso » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:51:51

I've had a good look at Vista RC2 and there's just nothing there that's a
worthwhile improvement over XP.  It looks a bit better but if I cared about
making XP look better I'd go and buy 'Windows Blinds' or something.  XP was
a quantum leap over Win98/ME by comparison.
jason moye

Vista license agreement is a joke

by jason moye » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:56


> This is the issue for me. The only thing I need Windows for is to play
> games.

I'm going to want to play Bioshock, plus the next generation of racing
sims using DX10.  DX10 is Vista proprietary.  As much as it sucks,
you're either going to stop playing new PC games or upgrade.
spa..

Vista license agreement is a joke

by spa.. » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:50:46

    I change computer hardware more than some people change their
underwear. LOL Would be a major headache for me. I guess I am already
asking myself if I really need it.
    Similar to 64 bit windows.. no apps I use utilize it so who cares.
Is Vista going to improve GTR2 ,Rfactor performance. Can or will they
be optimized for DX10 ?? Steve P

Andrew MacPhers

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Andrew MacPhers » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:51:00


> As much as it sucks, you're either going to stop playing
> new PC games or upgrade.

Unless I've missed something, DX10 is no different to DX9. You might
*want* the pretty new features, but you won't need them (it's not as if
DX9 games are slow or ugly, after all). There may be a couple of titles
who are "sponsored" to be DX10-only, but given the cost of Vista, it's
going to have to be one hell of a game!

Andrew McP

Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:32:45

Just another persons interpretation.  I want to hear from Microsoft what
their TRUE intentions are here.

-Larry




>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/://

>> I will suggest they will have to change that as vista sales will be hit
>> *** that single issue alone

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:35:45

Activation isn't what's at issue here.

-Larry





>>>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> Well, that is even more ***from Microsoft. They are saying even retail
>> XP
>> is tied to a single device. Why the *** would we buy retail copies of XP
>> if it is tied to a single device just like OEM? They are just
>> backtracking
>> and trying to confuse the issue.

> I just replaced a Hard Drive (not my primary, a second drive) and added a
> gigabit NIC card and I had to re-activate Windows.  Had no problem doing
> so, but I did have to do it.  It's the first time I've had to do it, but I
> guess I'm one of the stupid people who actually owns and paid for 3 Retail
> copies of Win XP Pro.   ;)

> --
> Scott B. Husted
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:37:04

I've had to re-activate after simply upgrading NIC drivers!

Then again, I completely replaced my Win2k3 server box and my copy of Win2K3
Server installed and activated without a whimper.

-Larry


Someon

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Someon » Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:37:09

Yep, it will be time to move away from new games. To be honest, I'm worn out
by *** right now, having enjoyed *** for over 20 years, so perhaps I'm
luckier. I'll be looking to the new generation consoles for my *** needs,
and that wont be including the XBox's.



>> This is the issue for me. The only thing I need Windows for is to play
>> games.

> I'm going to want to play Bioshock, plus the next generation of racing
> sims using DX10.  DX10 is Vista proprietary.  As much as it sucks,
> you're either going to stop playing new PC games or upgrade.

Mitch.

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Mitch. » Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:42:11

Can you read?  Or is that too much to ask before inserting yourself ass
first into the conversation?

Microsoft general manager Shanen Boettcher was the interviewee.  Unless it's
directly from Bill's mouth it doesn't count?  Sheeeesh....  The interviewer
has zero to gain and everything to lose by misleading his readers.

All this whining about Vista is based on BULLSHIT.  If you legally own XP
and havent had any issues activating it then Vista will ALSO activate
perfectly.  As MS says the procedure for moving a license is EXATCLY AS XP.
Why is that so hard to believe/comprehend?

Area51, The Grassy Knoll, Lockness, etc, etc all fit perfectly with your
non-argument....

It's funny to see the same bunch scrambling to post how they won't run Vista
blah blah blah.  Ya know the exact same bunch that ran W98se for years after
XP was released cause it was "good nuff"....  Most kiddies here can't go any
farther back than that LOL..

Who gives a shit if anyone here is going to run Vista or not BUT don't come
around handing out bags of bullshit telling everyone it's gold and not
expect to be called out by the actual truth..

Mitch


Larr

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Larr » Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:32:59

Mitch, I don't know what has happened to you, but you've become quite the
annoyance of late.

I don't know where the guy that I used to enjoy racing with went, but I wish
he would come back.

-Larry


> Can you read?  Or is that too much to ask before inserting yourself ass
> first into the conversation?

> Microsoft general manager Shanen Boettcher was the interviewee.  Unless
> it's directly from Bill's mouth it doesn't count?  Sheeeesh....  The
> interviewer has zero to gain and everything to lose by misleading his
> readers.

> All this whining about Vista is based on BULLSHIT.  If you legally own XP
> and havent had any issues activating it then Vista will ALSO activate
> perfectly.  As MS says the procedure for moving a license is EXATCLY AS
> XP. Why is that so hard to believe/comprehend?

> Area51, The Grassy Knoll, Lockness, etc, etc all fit perfectly with your
> non-argument....

> It's funny to see the same bunch scrambling to post how they won't run
> Vista blah blah blah.  Ya know the exact same bunch that ran W98se for
> years after XP was released cause it was "good nuff"....  Most kiddies
> here can't go any farther back than that LOL..

> Who gives a shit if anyone here is going to run Vista or not BUT don't
> come around handing out bags of bullshit telling everyone it's gold and
> not expect to be called out by the actual truth..

> Mitch



>> Just another persons interpretation.  I want to hear from Microsoft what
>> their TRUE intentions are here.

>> -Larry

timmy thompso

Vista license agreement is a joke

by timmy thompso » Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:26:51


> Can you read?  Or is that too much to ask before inserting yourself ass
> first into the conversation?

> Microsoft general manager Shanen Boettcher was the interviewee.  Unless
> it's directly from Bill's mouth it doesn't count?  Sheeeesh....  The
> interviewer has zero to gain and everything to lose by misleading his
> readers.

> All this whining about Vista is based on BULLSHIT.  If you legally own
> XP and havent had any issues activating it then Vista will ALSO activate
> perfectly.  As MS says the procedure for moving a license is EXATCLY AS
> XP. Why is that so hard to believe/comprehend?

> Area51, The Grassy Knoll, Lockness, etc, etc all fit perfectly with your
> non-argument....

You need serious, SERIOUS, help.
Ruud Dingeman

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Ruud Dingeman » Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:17:40


> Just another persons interpretation.  I want to hear from Microsoft what
> their TRUE intentions are here.

Well, primarily, "Making money" of course.   As always - what else would
you expect?

Regards, Rudy
(GPLRank: -27)

Mitch.

Vista license agreement is a joke

by Mitch. » Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:48:34

What happened to me?  What happened to you?  You chimed in on this thread
and basically said you didn't even read the article yet you somehow twist
that into me being annoying?  How does anything you said in your reply make
any sense after reading the article mentioned?  Let me refresh your memory
with this quote.

This article CLEARLY involves direct quotes FROM A MICROSOFT GM Larry.  Do
you think it's faked by P.Thurott?  That's a much bigger stretch of the
imagination than reality allows and anything more on that idea is simply
unreasonable.

How do you have XP setup/activated now?  That's how you will activate/run
Vista.  Ive upgraded my PC countless times since 2002 and reinstalled the
same version of XP Pro after each upgrade and the only MS requirement was
call the MS call center in India and go through 5 mins of number hassle.
That's exactly what you will do with Vista as the procedure is UNCHANGED,
this was stated directly from an MS rep in the article...

And that only happens with major upgrades.  Between upgrades I use
BartPE/DriveImage to create a bootable CD from which you can restore
Driveimage partition backups.  Works perfect every time and I expect it will
be patched to work just as well in Vista.

Mitch


> Mitch, I don't know what has happened to you, but you've become quite the
> annoyance of late.

> I don't know where the guy that I used to enjoy racing with went, but I
> wish he would come back.

> -Larry



>> Can you read?  Or is that too much to ask before inserting yourself ass
>> first into the conversation?

>> Microsoft general manager Shanen Boettcher was the interviewee.  Unless
>> it's directly from Bill's mouth it doesn't count?  Sheeeesh....  The
>> interviewer has zero to gain and everything to lose by misleading his
>> readers.

>> All this whining about Vista is based on BULLSHIT.  If you legally own XP
>> and havent had any issues activating it then Vista will ALSO activate
>> perfectly.  As MS says the procedure for moving a license is EXATCLY AS
>> XP. Why is that so hard to believe/comprehend?

>> Area51, The Grassy Knoll, Lockness, etc, etc all fit perfectly with your
>> non-argument....

>> It's funny to see the same bunch scrambling to post how they won't run
>> Vista blah blah blah.  Ya know the exact same bunch that ran W98se for
>> years after XP was released cause it was "good nuff"....  Most kiddies
>> here can't go any farther back than that LOL..

>> Who gives a shit if anyone here is going to run Vista or not BUT don't
>> come around handing out bags of bullshit telling everyone it's gold and
>> not expect to be called out by the actual truth..

>> Mitch



>>> Just another persons interpretation.  I want to hear from Microsoft what
>>> their TRUE intentions are here.

>>> -Larry


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