The Voodoo2 is still one of the most competitive 3D cards on the
market.
Its been at around 70 for a while now however.
If you buy on-line, or from a direct order, you might be able to bring
the price down even more.
Thomas Ford
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-Tim
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-Tim
> >Steven, those people that are emailing you are right. There is no such
> >thing as a 16 MB Voodoo 2 card. You have Voodoo, Voodoo 2, and Voodoo
> >Banshee confused. The original Voodoo cards only came with 4 MB. Voodoo
2
> >came only with 8 MB or 12 MB. Voodoo Banshee and of course Voodoo 3 have
16
> >MB.
> >-Tim
> >> I was just at my local computer store, and they have the Elsa, Voodoo2
> >> cards, 16 MB, selling for $69 brand new! That's a pretty darn good
> >> deal for those cards.
> >> ------------------
> >> First of all, people are E-mailing me suggesting there is no such
> >> thing as a 16MB Voodoo card. here is a link to a store that is selling
> >> them, though I do not see them on the web site, they are in the
> >> Oceanside store. Second of all, They have them on Buy.com, but at
> >> higher prices. next time I post some info, I might decide it is not
> >> worth posting it, to many people try to suggest your wrong, and it is
> >> not worth the hassle of backing up your info. IMHO.
> >> ===============
> >> http://www.allelec.com/
> >> ELSA, VICTORY II AGP 16MB VOODOO BANSHEE 2D/3D ACCELERATOR
> >> Cards for $69
> >> ------------------
> >> Info from Buy.com
> >> http://www.elsa.com/AMERICA/BUY_INDX.HTM
> >> ================
> >> Steven S. Palmer
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Are you claiming that the Elsa is a Voodoo2 16MB card? There
is no such thing.
There is no such thing as a 16MB Voodoo2 card. The Banshee
and Voodoo3 cards are 16MB though.
Um... According to the above part I have quoted, this is a 16MB Banshee
card not Voodoo2 (which are only 8MB and 12MB flavors).
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3DFX 1000 PCI 12MB VOODOO2 DIRECT 3D/GLIDE FOR *** (mfg part# V21312)
Our Price: $86.95
Retail Price: $99.99 You save: $13.04
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>>Steven, those people that are emailing you are right. There is no such
>>thing as a 16 MB Voodoo 2 card. You have Voodoo, Voodoo 2, and Voodoo
>>Banshee confused. The original Voodoo cards only came with 4 MB. Voodoo
2
>>came only with 8 MB or 12 MB. Voodoo Banshee and of course Voodoo 3 have
16
>>MB.
>>-Tim
>>> I was just at my local computer store, and they have the Elsa, Voodoo2
>>> cards, 16 MB, selling for $69 brand new! That's a pretty darn good
>>> deal for those cards.
>>> ------------------
>>> First of all, people are E-mailing me suggesting there is no such
>>> thing as a 16MB Voodoo card. here is a link to a store that is selling
>>> them, though I do not see them on the web site, they are in the
>>> Oceanside store. Second of all, They have them on Buy.com, but at
>>> higher prices. next time I post some info, I might decide it is not
>>> worth posting it, to many people try to suggest your wrong, and it is
>>> not worth the hassle of backing up your info. IMHO.
>>> ===============
>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>> ELSA, VICTORY II AGP 16MB VOODOO BANSHEE 2D/3D ACCELERATOR
>>> Cards for $69
>>> ------------------
>>> Info from Buy.com
>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>> ================
>>> Steven S. Palmer
>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~ssp/
>>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~stevenscott/
>>> ----------------------------------
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Wow.
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Nothing in the description below says it's a Voodoo2 card.
>Steven S. Palmer
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Basically we have had the following from 3dfx
Voodoo Graphics
Voodoo Rush
Voodoo2
Banshee
Voodoo3
Just because the shop has it listed a certain way doesn't mean
anything. More than likely it's some sales droid who couldnt tell you
the difference between a 3dfx and a TNT card or even knows what Glide
is.
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here's your original post, take a look at what you said, you said
Voodoo2! Everyone who can read English can call you wrong, and they
would be right. You posted info pertaining to a Banshee card which is
NOT a Voodoo2 card.
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I was just at my local computer store, and they have the Elsa, Voodoo2
cards, 16 MB, selling for $69 brand new! That's a pretty darn good
deal for those cards.
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Steven S. Palmer
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/4001/
http://www.primenet.com/~ssp/
http://members.tripod.com/~stevenscott/
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Steven, you're speaking to people here who obviously know what they're
saying, and have probably been using computers (and 3D accelerators) a
lot longer than you (judging by your knowledge of 3D cards, that is).
There's no need for any of us to visit the shop where you say you saw
these cards, as they will be exactly the same as the cards we can all
find in our local computer stores.
Try not to be on the defensive when people offer you sound advice and
information. They're not screwing you around, they're not teasing and
they're not making fun of you. They are informing you that you are
incorrect.
We all makes mistakes at times - I know I've certainly made a lot of
them! ;-)
Thomas Ford
"Please remove NOSPAM from e-mail address to reply"
Zip!
Thomas Ford
"Please remove NOSPAM from e-mail address to reply"
Also Voodoo2 cards were touted as 100% compatible with
the 4MB original 3dfx Voodoo1 cards. There were not and
many games needed voodoo2 specific patches.
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>ELSA VICTORY ? II
>ELSA and 3DfxMaximum Graphics Power for 3D Gamers
>The ELSA VICTORY II represents a new generation of Voodoo graphics
>boards. The Voodoo-Banshee graphics chip combines the 3D power, speed,
>and compatibility of the Voodoo 2 chip generation with an extremely
>fast 128-bit 2D graphics performance. Which meansan ideal all-in-one
>graphics board for the most demanding home user. The ELSA VICTORY II
>is a graphics board for maximum games fun but which also features
>power enough for serious PC tasks. Ideal for combination with
>Pentium-II systems.
>Voodoo Banshee graphics chip: Full compatibility to Voodoo2 including
>Glide support
>Extreme fast 16 MB SGRAM and a 250 MHz RAMDAC
>Super fast 2D/3D and video acceleration under Windows? 98 and Windows?
>95
>Extremely fast, fully integrated 128-bit 2D hardware
>High rendering quality including the latest 3D features such as bump
>mapping, triliear filtering, and many more
>Optimized for Pentium II and DVD playback
>ELSAmovie? support (Software DVD player optional)
>ELSA 3D REVELATOR? support (real 3D *** with shutter glasses
>optional)
>Equipment: Graphics processor Voodoo Banshee from 3Dfx
> RAMDAC/pixel clock 250 MHz
> Memory equipment 16 MB SGRAM
> BIOS VBE 3.0 support
> Bus system AGP
>Features: Graphics standards: OpenGL? MCD (under Windows NT?),
>Direct3D, DirectDraw, DirectVideo, ActiveX, Glide
> 2D hardware features 128-bit Windows accelerationAll 256 raster
>operations in hardware, block write
> 3D hardware features Integrated Voodoo 2 pixel and single texture
>unit, 100 Mpixels/s fill rate, 100 Mtexel/s fill rate, max. 4 mill.
>Polygons/s, high-speed texture cache, 16-bit floating point Z buffer,
>transparency and chroma key with color mask, alpha blending, 24-bit
>color dithering, fog effects, LOD-MIP mapping, trilinear filtering,
>edge anti-aliasing, bump mapping, perspective-corrected 3D texture
>mapping.
> Standards VESA-BIOS 3.0, DPMS, DDC2B, Plug&Play
> Connectors Monitor: D-Shell 15-pin, VMI
> Dimensions 172 x 83 mm (not including mount bracket)
>Resolutions: Display memory Refresh rates
>16 MB SGRAM 256 colors (8-bit) 64K colors (16-bit) 16.7 million colors
>(24-bit/32-bit)
>1600 x 1200 85 85 85
>1280 x 1024 100 100 100
>1152 x 864 100 100 100
>1024 x 768 120 120 120
>800 x 600 120 120 120
>640 x 480 120 120 120
>The values specified here are maximum values and can not always be
>achieved under some operating conditions. Other graphic modes are
>easily configured in Windows?.
>Drivers/Software Operating systems Windows?95, Windows?98, Windows NT?
>4.0
> Windows utilities ELSA WINman Suite incl. ELSA Settings, ELSAinfo
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Package Contents: User Manual Extensive documentation in English and >All names mentioned in this document may be trademarks or registered >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Steven S. Palmer
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>German
> Installation Guide English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, and
>Dutch
> Drivers/Software On CD-ROM, ELSA WINNERware, 3D games sampler
>Service: Warranty 6 years
> Support Via hotline and the Internet
>No.: 00033 ELSA VICTORY II (Retail)
>00744 ELSA VICTORY II (Bulk)
>trademarks of their respective owners. The ELSA logo is a registered
>trademark of ELSA AG.
>Subject to change without notice. No liability for technical errors or
>omissions.
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>You people should be nice and apologize to me. I had to go out of my
>way to show you you continued to trash me while you were wrong.
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>Also Voodoo2 cards were touted as 100% compatible with
>the 4MB original 3dfx Voodoo1 cards. There were not and
>many games needed voodoo2 specific patches.
Z.
Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.
Right there. It may have some of the 3d capability of a Voodoo 2, but it's
a Banshee. From what I've heard, they need all sorts of patches to work as
good as a real Voodoo 2, and the 2d part sucks. I would just get the best
of both GPL worlds and get a Stealth II S220 for $30 or less depending on
rebates, and a Voodoo2 for $50 (if Creative ever gets more refurbs that
is)...$10 more than the Banshee, lots faster.
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-Tim
> >boards. The Voodoo-Banshee graphics chip combines the 3D power, speed
> Right there. It may have some of the 3d capability of a Voodoo 2, but
it's
> a Banshee. From what I've heard, they need all sorts of patches to work
as
> good as a real Voodoo 2, and the 2d part sucks. I would just get the best
> of both GPL worlds and get a Stealth II S220 for $30 or less depending on
> rebates, and a Voodoo2 for $50 (if Creative ever gets more refurbs that
> is)...$10 more than the Banshee, lots faster.
> --
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> Tempe, AZ
> ICQ: 28171652
> RMRL #119
