rec.autos.simulators

by **Don Hanco** » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00

>Just to say I proved, gave the appropriate links, web sites, and
>information, on my point after people called me on the carpet saying I
>was wrong. I think maybe there was an understanding. The card I
<SNIP>
>than $70. I saw good deal and people found a way to turn this thread
>into something it was not. My fault, as most of the people in these
>news group are much younger than me and are prone to fight and argue
>with anyone that seems authoritative on any subject. For the sake of
>the argument, OK kids, your right and I am wrong. I am not going to
>respond anymore to thread.

That's too bad, 'cause I've finally had more of this thread
than _I_ can stand and I've decided to make ONE post about it: You
mentioned that you had found a Voodoo 2 card and provided all the
relevant info that you've repeated ad nauseum... okay... someone else
merely pointed out that the card you mentioned wasn't actually a
Voodoo2 but a Banshee and you took off. It's unfortunate that you
don't seem to have looked back at the genus of this thread to see
where it started to go offcourse. I don't think at the start ANYONE
was trying to even say you were wrong - you just took it to heart and
blew it into this moronic argument about ages and "correctness" and
such. Next time, just realize that you weren't entirely right and
someone was merely trying to educate you...

Gunner

by **david kar** » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00

So, um . . . what racing sims (hint hint) do you like, Steven?

by **Nathan Wo** » Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:00:00

You tried to tell us it was a Voodoo2. it is not, has not, and will
never be a Voodoo2. It is COMPATIBLE with Voodoo2, that is, games
which run on V2 will run with Banshee. But it does NOT have all the
features of V2, namely only a single texture unit, compared to twin
texture units on a V2.

And you listen to what I have been trying to tell you, that info below
does not say the Elsa card is a Voodoo2 which you were claiming.
You have just provided the info to argue against your own post.

>--I have it copies from the Elsa web site, European, page has exactly
>what I tried to tell you, the board has the Voodoo2 features.
>Here is the link, copy of text from Elsa Web site:
>-----------------
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>------

>ELSA VICTORY ? II
>ELSA and 3DfxMaximum Graphics Power for 3D Gamers
>The ELSA VICTORY II represents a new generation of Voodoo graphics
>boards. The Voodoo-Banshee graphics chip combines the 3D power, speed,
>and compatibility of the Voodoo 2 chip generation with an extremely
>fast 128-bit 2D graphics performance. Which meansan ideal all-in-one
>graphics board for the most demanding home user. The ELSA VICTORY II
>is a graphics board for maximum games fun but which also features
>power enough for serious PC tasks. Ideal for combination with
>Pentium-II systems.

>Voodoo Banshee graphics chip: Full compatibility to Voodoo2 including
>Glide support
>Extreme fast 16 MB SGRAM and a 250 MHz RAMDAC
>Super fast 2D/3D and video acceleration under Windows? 98 and Windows?
>95
>Extremely fast, fully integrated 128-bit 2D hardware
>High rendering quality including the latest 3D features such as bump
>mapping, triliear filtering, and many more
>Optimized for Pentium II and DVD playback
>ELSAmovie? support (Software DVD player optional)
>ELSA 3D REVELATOR? support (real 3D *** with shutter glasses
>optional)

>Equipment: Graphics processor Voodoo Banshee from 3Dfx
> RAMDAC/pixel clock 250 MHz
> Memory equipment 16 MB SGRAM
> BIOS VBE 3.0 support
> Bus system AGP
>Features: Graphics standards: OpenGL? MCD (under Windows NT?),
>Direct3D, DirectDraw, DirectVideo, ActiveX, Glide
> 2D hardware features 128-bit Windows accelerationAll 256 raster
>operations in hardware, block write
> 3D hardware features Integrated Voodoo 2 pixel and single texture
>unit, 100 Mpixels/s fill rate, 100 Mtexel/s fill rate, max. 4 mill.
>Polygons/s, high-speed texture cache, 16-bit floating point Z buffer,
>transparency and chroma key with color mask, alpha blending, 24-bit
>color dithering, fog effects, LOD-MIP mapping, trilinear filtering,
>edge anti-aliasing, bump mapping, perspective-corrected 3D texture
>mapping.
> Standards VESA-BIOS 3.0, DPMS, DDC2B, Plug&Play
> Connectors Monitor: D-Shell 15-pin, VMI
> Dimensions 172 x 83 mm (not including mount bracket)
>Resolutions: Display memory Refresh rates
>16 MB SGRAM 256 colors (8-bit) 64K colors (16-bit) 16.7 million colors
>(24-bit/32-bit)
>1600 x 1200 85 85 85
>1280 x 1024 100 100 100
>1152 x 864 100 100 100
>1024 x 768 120 120 120
>800 x 600 120 120 120
>640 x 480 120 120 120
>The values specified here are maximum values and can not always be
>achieved under some operating conditions. Other graphic modes are
>easily configured in Windows?.

>Drivers/Software Operating systems Windows?95, Windows?98, Windows NT?
>4.0
> Windows utilities ELSA WINman Suite incl. ELSA Settings, ELSAinfo

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>Package Contents: User Manual Extensive documentation in English and
>German
> Installation Guide English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, and
>Dutch
> Drivers/Software On CD-ROM, ELSA WINNERware, 3D games sampler
>Service: Warranty 6 years
> Support Via hotline and the Internet
>No.: 00033 ELSA VICTORY II (Retail)
>00744 ELSA VICTORY II (Bulk)

>All names mentioned in this document may be trademarks or registered
>trademarks of their respective owners. The ELSA logo is a registered
>trademark of ELSA AG.
>Subject to change without notice. No liability for technical errors or
>omissions.

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>========================
>You people should be nice and apologize to me. I had to go out of my
>way to show you you continued to trash me while you were wrong.
>-------------

>Steven S. Palmer

>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~ssp/
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~stevenscott/
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- Super Touring - Alfa Romeo -

- V8Supercars - CART -

by **Nathan Wo** » Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:00:00

>Just to say I proved, gave the appropriate links, web sites, and
>information, on my point after people called me on the carpet saying I
>was wrong. I think maybe there was an understanding. The card I
>pointed out, Elsa Victory2 Voodoo, was designed and sold between the
>Voodoo2 and the Voodoo3. it is backwards compatible and is a Voodoo
>Banshee with Voodoo2 parts. While I found it to be sold at a very good

That';s right, finally you realise it's a BANSHEE. Now go back up and
look for your original post....and oh, here we go, it says VOODOO2.
That's why everyone corrected you, and you chose to go off your
obviously fragile mind and start making all sorts of pathetic insults
and paranoid rants and raves.

Your "fault" was that you had your info WRONG. At last you have
finally used your 40 years of so-called experience, your engineering
degree, and your niceness to read plain english and discover you were
utterly totally wrong. Now take your paranoia and go argue with some
other young'uns.

--
Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors
- Super Touring - Alfa Romeo -

- V8Supercars - CART -

by **Nathan Wo** » Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:00:00

>I have a Diamond Stealth II S220 in another of my computers. it is
>better off in lower end Pentium computers. As far as I know, there is
>no current rebate. I got one with rebate and after the rebate cost
>only $8. I had 2 CL Riva TNT's and sold them because no VESA support
>for Nascar99 in multi player mode. I already told everyone (thought I
>had done everyone a favor that was considering a Voodoo) about a sale
>price on Elsa Voodoo Victory II cards for $70, but they all freaked
>and told me what I said did not exist. I also got a Hercules Thriller

No, you said Voodoo2. That's why everyone told you they didnt exist,
because they DON'T.

[pathetic attempt to impress people with your computer specs snipped]
--
Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors
- Super Touring - Alfa Romeo -

- V8Supercars - CART -

by **Tim** » Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I'm sure Steven likes:

Need for Speed II: High Stakes
Monaco GP Racing Simulator 3
Viper Racing Cars GT

> So, um . . . what racing sims (hint hint) do you like, Steven?

> > --I have it copies from the Elsa web site, European, page has exactly
> > what I tried to tell you, the board has the Voodoo2 features.
> > Here is the link, copy of text from Elsa Web site:
> > -----------------
> > http://www.elsa.com/EUROPE/INDEX.HTM

by **Dan** » Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:00:00

How about them Packers!

>You tried to tell us it was a Voodoo2. it is not, has not, and will
>never be a Voodoo2. It is COMPATIBLE with Voodoo2, that is, games
>which run on V2 will run with Banshee. But it does NOT have all the
>features of V2, namely only a single texture unit, compared to twin
>texture units on a V2.

>And you listen to what I have been trying to tell you, that info below
>does not say the Elsa card is a Voodoo2 which you were claiming.
>You have just provided the info to argue against your own post.

>>--I have it copies from the Elsa web site, European, page has exactly
>>what I tried to tell you, the board has the Voodoo2 features.
>>Here is the link, copy of text from Elsa Web site:
>>-----------------
>>http://www.elsa.com/EUROPE/INDEX.HTM

by **Greg Cisk** » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Are you mentally retarded or something? No one told you the Elsa
Voodoo Victory II cards do not exist. We told you that these are
16MB Banshee cards. Man you need some help...

Wow.

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