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N2 problems on Pentium 90

EDDIE MEDLI

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by EDDIE MEDLI » Sat, 08 Mar 1997 04:00:00

I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a couple of
the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a Diamond Stealth S3
video card with the most recent driver. Does anyone know how I can improve
performance with my system. I hear guys with 486's are having better
results than I am with my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that
shouldn't have any affect on the playability of the game.
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Craig Jacobso

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Craig Jacobso » Sat, 08 Mar 1997 04:00:00


> I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a couple of
> the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a Diamond Stealth S3
> video card with the most recent driver. Does anyone know how I can improve
> performance with my system. I hear guys with 486's are having better
> results than I am with my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that
> shouldn't have any affect on the playability of the game.
> --



Well, your P90 is getting better results than my 486.  I can't run the
game in VGA mode with zero graphics on.

From what I've heard, you need a P166 to be able to use the game in SVGA
mode with most of the graphics on.  Even then don't expect to be able to
use asphalt or grass -- you need about a P200000 to do that.

Craig Jacobson

Matt

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Matt » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00



> > I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a couple of
> > the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a Diamond Stealth S3
> > video card with the most recent driver. Does anyone know how I can improve
> > performance with my system. I hear guys with 486's are having better
> > results than I am with my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that
> > shouldn't have any affect on the playability of the game.
> > --


> Well, your P90 is getting better results than my 486.  I can't run the
> game in VGA mode with zero graphics on.

> From what I've heard, you need a P166 to be able to use the game in SVGA
> mode with most of the graphics on.  Even then don't expect to be able to
> use asphalt or grass -- you need about a P200000 to do that.

> Craig Jacobson

I have a P166 and have the graphics cranked up to everything and the
frame rates are cranked up also. It is real smooth on my machine, but I
am not running it from the CD.  

I have a P166, Diamond Stealth SE, 32MB RAM, 2526 pipeline cache.  It is
a rather basic system for the most part.

matt
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Greg Cisk

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00



I have a P5-133 and run N2 with *EVERY* option turned ON. Grass, asphalt
ect.
draw 12 cars in front, 4 behind ect and all in SVGA via DOS re-boot.
Framerate is
silky smooth. Much more so than GP2.

I wish Papy would do a REAL F1 game :-)

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Michael E. Carve

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Michael E. Carve » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00


: I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a couple of
: the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a Diamond Stealth S3
: video card with the most recent driver. Does anyone know how I can improve
: performance with my system. I hear guys with 486's are having better
: results than I am with my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that
: shouldn't have any affect on the playability of the game.

Are you running in win95 or pure DOS?

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Jim Sokolo

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Jim Sokolo » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00




>: I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a couple of
>: the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a Diamond Stealth S3
>: video card with the most recent driver. Does anyone know how I can improve
>: performance with my system. I hear guys with 486's are having better
>: results than I am with my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that
>: shouldn't have any affect on the playability of the game.

>Are you running in win95 or pure DOS?

The biggest question is are you using UniVBE (or loading VESA 2.0
drivers beforehand)? If not, that's good for a couple FPS on that
setup...

Either run UVCONFIG in your N2 directory, or get VESA 2.0 drivers.

That's the system I run at home and on one work machine, and I get
perfectly fine performance (granted, I've only got cars textured, and
TSOs on, but not textured)...

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

Steve Vandergrif

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Steve Vandergrif » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00


> I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a couple of
> the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a Diamond Stealth S3
> video card with the most recent driver. Does anyone know how I can improve
> performance with my system. I hear guys with 486's are having better
> results than I am with my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that
> shouldn't have any affect on the playability of the game.
> --



I ran versions on a P90 for months, and I would recommend first that if
you're running in win95 on that system, don't.  Set up a good clean DOS
boot, loading your mouse, CD, video and soundcard drivers in high
memory.  You'll pick up a solid improvement in framerate.  If you're
already running in DOS, make sure you're restarting the computer in
MSDOS mode, not simply launching the DOS prompt from within win95.

God Bless,
Steve

Dave Bi

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Dave Bi » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00


> Well, your P90 is getting better results than my 486.  I can't run the
> game in VGA mode with zero graphics on.

> From what I've heard, you need a P166 to be able to use the game in SVGA
> mode with most of the graphics on.  Even then don't expect to be able to
> use asphalt or grass -- you need about a P200000 to do that.

I'm successfully running NASCAR 2 on a 486/66.  In some ways it's a
pretty fast 486 (64 MB RAM, 5400 rpm EIDE drives), in other ways it's
a slug (VLB CL 5428 1 MB video).  Oh, and I don't have a joystick or
wheel, so I have to drive with a keyboard.  As you can see, I'm a
total lamer. :)

Anyways, it runs OK.  Yeah, it's kinda choppy.  I have all the "fancy"
graphics off except car textures, skids/paint, and walls.  Of course,
I have horizon and the other stuff needed for braking markers turned
on.  I can't tell you exactly what things are off or on because I'm
writing this from NT4 and I don't want to reboot the machine.  Oh, and
I only paint 10 cars in front and 1 behind, and have opponent sounds
set to 4 cars.

I've only had the game 2 weeks (and it's my first sim), so of course
I'm pretty terrible.  Still, I'm able to turn laps within about 15 MPH
of the track records at the easier tracks.  I can win (if I don't
***up too many times) with opponent strengths at 91-93%.  Most of
the trouble is trying to steer with the keyboard.

So, I guess my pint is that I think Papyrus' minimum recommended
configuration is pretty accurate and the game is indeed playable and
fun that way, although obviously it's far from ideal.

This sim is so totally ***ing that I'm going shopping for a PP200
later today.  And a check for a TSW will go out this week. :)

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Kai Fulle

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Kai Fulle » Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:00:00

B.S.

I have a pentium 100 w\ 16 ram. I have all but pavement\grass grafics on in
svga. Even martinsville is good. btw I have a 64 bit trident video card w\
1 mb ram

so in no way do you need a 166 to run in svga

I also have all ahed and 4 behind. and sounds on.

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Eric T. Busc

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Eric T. Busc » Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:00:00

People have much different definitions of what they deem acceptable
performance.  Full detail on my P200MMX is borderline at some tracks
(not even counting Bristol and Martinsville).  On my old P133 (in
Rendition mode with DMA scores in the mid to upper 80's I might add) I
had to turn off a few details and reduce the number of cars drawn to
keep the frame rate up.

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Richard Walk

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Richard Walk » Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:00:00



What frame rates are you getting. With my P133, Matrox Millenium, 48MB
RAM I only have textures on cars & walls, 10 cars in front, 3 behind. If
I set fences to automatic, the program reckons it is running at about
25fps but at times it is noticably jerky. This is running in SVGA from
DOS 6.22.

Since I can run GP2 at good framerates I assume there is something that
N2 doesn't like about my PC :( If anyone has a clue as to what it might
be I would be very greatful!

Cheers,
Richard

Michael Bai

N2 problems on Pentium 90

by Michael Bai » Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:00:00

EDDIE> I run N2 on a Pentium 90 with 16 megs of ram. I can run only a
EDDIE> couple of the graphics or the game really gets jerky. I have a
EDDIE> Diamond Stealth S3 video card with the most recent driver. Does
EDDIE> anyone know how I can improve performance with my system. I
EDDIE> hear guys with 486's are having better results than I am with
EDDIE> my P90. I am adding another 16megs of ram, but that shouldn't
EDDIE> have any affect on the playability of the game.

One simple thing you could try, is to overclock your chip.  You should
be able to get 100MHz easily.  My 75MHz has been running happily at
100MHz for months.  Use a cooling fan to prevent overheating.

This will run your Bus at 66MHz instead of the 60MHz that its running
now, which directly improves your display speed.

Make sure your RAM doesn't have a lot of wait states inserted, unless
your RAM is marginal and you start getting errors ...

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