you got it :)
You can't even _brush_ the wall at Daytona without raising up the right side
of the hood and dropping speed.
Doesn't bother me, but some folks are gonna have FITS with this new damage
model.
Good :)
Larry
You can't even _brush_ the wall at Daytona without raising up the right side
of the hood and dropping speed.
Doesn't bother me, but some folks are gonna have FITS with this new damage
model.
Good :)
Larry
> You can't even _brush_ the wall at Daytona without raising up the
> right side of the hood and dropping speed.
> Doesn't bother me, but some folks are gonna have FITS with this new
> damage model.
> Good :)
> Larry
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Larry
> > You can't even _brush_ the wall at Daytona without raising up the
> > right side of the hood and dropping speed.
> > Doesn't bother me, but some folks are gonna have FITS with this new
> > damage model.
> > Good :)
> > Larry
> What is nice is if you get some serious damage, ain't no amount of repair
in
> the pits going to bring you back up to speed, at least from what I have
seen
> so far.
> I was running Lowe's, banged up my rear end, and after fixin ( notice the
> use here Eldred:) ), it up, I was still not up to speed and the ai were
> blowing me away.
> Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online some :).
> --
> Don Burnette
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Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first race
online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that damnable jasper
setup I'm gonna scream....
> >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online some :)
> Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care. That's my
> prediction.
> Eldred
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> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why online
racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the lines of
Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If people
were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that could be a
server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of that
would be solved.
It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem; it's
the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and bail for
the next race, right foot planted.
Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
SB
> Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first race
> online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that damnable jasper
> setup I'm gonna scream....
> > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online some :)
> > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care. That's my
> > prediction.
> > Eldred
> > --
> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > GPLRank:-0.381
> > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
> you
> > with experience...
> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Got took out today by one of those idiots who goes three wide right after
the start. He wedged himself in between me and the car in the low line
leaving me nowhere to go but into the wall and then up in the air once the
low car drifted him into me. Asked him about it in the lobby and his reply
was something along the lines of
"Not my fault bro. Guy on the inside hit me"
Fool.
> It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why online
> racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the lines
of
> Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If people
> were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that could be
a
> server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of that
> would be solved.
> It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem; it's
> the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and bail for
> the next race, right foot planted.
> Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
> SB
> > Amazing insight you have there Eldred. Just spent 9 solid hours racing
> > online, and not only do they still not care if they crash, they also
still
> > do not care if they wreck you !!
> > Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first race
> > online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that damnable
jasper
> > setup I'm gonna scream....
> > > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online some :)
> > > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care. That's my
> > > prediction.
> > > Eldred
> > > --
> > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > GPLRank:-0.381
> > > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> > you
> > > with experience...
> > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Anyone else dissapointed that they STILL have not incorporated the tracking
of Wins, Top 5's, Top 10's and Poles like NROS did?
If they can track what the are tracking, it would seem to me that this would
be a piece of cake.
Larry
> It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why online
> racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the lines
of
> Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If people
> were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that could be
a
> server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of that
> would be solved.
> It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem; it's
> the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and bail for
> the next race, right foot planted.
> Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
> SB
> > Amazing insight you have there Eldred. Just spent 9 solid hours racing
> > online, and not only do they still not care if they crash, they also
still
> > do not care if they wreck you !!
> > Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first race
> > online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that damnable
jasper
> > setup I'm gonna scream....
> > > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online some :)
> > > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care. That's my
> > > prediction.
> > > Eldred
> > > --
> > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > GPLRank:-0.381
> > > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
beats
> > you
> > > with experience...
> > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"Sorry. Warp".
Sets my bullshit meter right off.
Larry
> Got took out today by one of those idiots who goes three wide right after
> the start. He wedged himself in between me and the car in the low line
> leaving me nowhere to go but into the wall and then up in the air once the
> low car drifted him into me. Asked him about it in the lobby and his reply
> was something along the lines of
> "Not my fault bro. Guy on the inside hit me"
> Fool.
> > No kidding; I think it took about 10 open races before I managed to
finish
> > one without some crazies taking half the field out, either on purpose or
> > through sheer incompetence. Throw in a dose of warping racers and it
gets
> > pretty frustrating. About 8 attempts in, my LPI was 2.8 and I'd just
> gotten
> > taken out again, this time *behind the pace car*. That gets old quick.
> > It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why online
> > racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the
lines
> of
> > Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If
people
> > were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that could
be
> a
> > server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of that
> > would be solved.
> > It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem;
it's
> > the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and bail
for
> > the next race, right foot planted.
> > Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
> > SB
> > > Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first race
> > > online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that damnable
> jasper
> > > setup I'm gonna scream....
> > > > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online some
:)
> > > > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care. That's
my
> > > > prediction.
> > > > Eldred
> > > > --
> > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > > GPLRank:-0.381
> > > > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > > > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
> beats
> > > you
> > > > with experience...
> > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
You know why don't you Larry? WARP! Plain and simple. I mean if it's a
warp it's a warp.. Yea I hate to hear it also but it happens ALL THE fn
TIME! I know you've seen the replay triple header before?. The replay from
the server is completely different than either driver which is also
different from each other. And I mean REALLY different, to the extent of no
one knowing for sure what happened. Thats why I get so po'd about racing
incidents. If youre going to point a finger you better watch my replay, the
server replay, and youre replay prior to stickin it out there. The warp
will continue in N6 without question. Sometime in the future that will all
change, just not today ;) And don't get me wrong about this, N6 has the
best netcode out there for racing it's just not perfect by any means either.
Mitch
> > Hear hear !!
> > Got took out today by one of those idiots who goes three wide right
after
> > the start. He wedged himself in between me and the car in the low line
> > leaving me nowhere to go but into the wall and then up in the air once
the
> > low car drifted him into me. Asked him about it in the lobby and his
reply
> > was something along the lines of
> > "Not my fault bro. Guy on the inside hit me"
> > Fool.
message
> > > No kidding; I think it took about 10 open races before I managed to
> finish
> > > one without some crazies taking half the field out, either on purpose
or
> > > through sheer incompetence. Throw in a dose of warping racers and it
> gets
> > > pretty frustrating. About 8 attempts in, my LPI was 2.8 and I'd just
> > gotten
> > > taken out again, this time *behind the pace car*. That gets old
quick.
> > > It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why online
> > > racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the
> lines
> > of
> > > Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If
> people
> > > were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that could
> be
> > a
> > > server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of
that
> > > would be solved.
> > > It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem;
> it's
> > > the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and bail
> for
> > > the next race, right foot planted.
> > > Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
> > > SB
> > > > Amazing insight you have there Eldred. Just spent 9 solid hours
racing
> > > > online, and not only do they still not care if they crash, they also
> > still
> > > > do not care if they wreck you !!
> > > > Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first
race
> > > > online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that damnable
> > jasper
> > > > setup I'm gonna scream....
> > > > > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online
some
> :)
> > > > > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care.
That's
> my
> > > > > prediction.
> > > > > Eldred
> > > > > --
> > > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > > > GPLRank:-0.381
> > > > > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > > > > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then
> > beats
> > > > you
> > > > > with experience...
> > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
> > "Sorry. Warp".
> > Sets my bullshit meter right off.
> > Larry
> You know why don't you Larry? WARP! Plain and simple. I mean if it's a
> warp it's a warp.. Yea I hate to hear it also but it happens ALL THE fn
> TIME! I know you've seen the replay triple header before?. The replay
from
> the server is completely different than either driver which is also
> different from each other. And I mean REALLY different, to the extent of
no
> one knowing for sure what happened. Thats why I get so po'd about racing
> incidents. If youre going to point a finger you better watch my replay,
the
> server replay, and youre replay prior to stickin it out there. The warp
> will continue in N6 without question. Sometime in the future that will
all
> change, just not today ;) And don't get me wrong about this, N6 has the
> best netcode out there for racing it's just not perfect by any means
either.
> Mitch
> > > Got took out today by one of those idiots who goes three wide right
> after
> > > the start. He wedged himself in between me and the car in the low line
> > > leaving me nowhere to go but into the wall and then up in the air once
> the
> > > low car drifted him into me. Asked him about it in the lobby and his
> reply
> > > was something along the lines of
> > > "Not my fault bro. Guy on the inside hit me"
> > > Fool.
> message
> > > > No kidding; I think it took about 10 open races before I managed to
> > finish
> > > > one without some crazies taking half the field out, either on
purpose
> or
> > > > through sheer incompetence. Throw in a dose of warping racers and
it
> > gets
> > > > pretty frustrating. About 8 attempts in, my LPI was 2.8 and I'd
just
> > > gotten
> > > > taken out again, this time *behind the pace car*. That gets old
> quick.
> > > > It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why
online
> > > > racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the
> > lines
> > > of
> > > > Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If
> > people
> > > > were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that
could
> > be
> > > a
> > > > server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of
> that
> > > > would be solved.
> > > > It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem;
> > it's
> > > > the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and
bail
> > for
> > > > the next race, right foot planted.
> > > > Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
> > > > SB
> > > > > Amazing insight you have there Eldred. Just spent 9 solid hours
> racing
> > > > > online, and not only do they still not care if they crash, they
also
> > > still
> > > > > do not care if they wreck you !!
> > > > > Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first
> race
> > > > > online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that
damnable
> > > jasper
> > > > > setup I'm gonna scream....
> > > > > > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online
> some
> > :)
> > > > > > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care.
> That's
> > my
> > > > > > prediction.
> > > > > > Eldred
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > > > > > GPLRank:-0.381
> > > > > > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > > > > > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level,
then
> > > beats
> > > > > you
> > > > > > with experience...
> > > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
It's become the ultimate scape goat for others***ups.
You can tell when warp really happens if you 've been around this game long
enough.
Of course it happens. It has happened to me.
Larry
> > "Sorry. Warp".
> > Sets my bullshit meter right off.
> > Larry
> You know why don't you Larry? WARP! Plain and simple. I mean if it's a
> warp it's a warp.. Yea I hate to hear it also but it happens ALL THE fn
> TIME! I know you've seen the replay triple header before?. The replay
from
> the server is completely different than either driver which is also
> different from each other. And I mean REALLY different, to the extent of
no
> one knowing for sure what happened. Thats why I get so po'd about racing
> incidents. If youre going to point a finger you better watch my replay,
the
> server replay, and youre replay prior to stickin it out there. The warp
> will continue in N6 without question. Sometime in the future that will
all
> change, just not today ;) And don't get me wrong about this, N6 has the
> best netcode out there for racing it's just not perfect by any means
either.
> Mitch
> > > Got took out today by one of those idiots who goes three wide right
> after
> > > the start. He wedged himself in between me and the car in the low line
> > > leaving me nowhere to go but into the wall and then up in the air once
> the
> > > low car drifted him into me. Asked him about it in the lobby and his
> reply
> > > was something along the lines of
> > > "Not my fault bro. Guy on the inside hit me"
> > > Fool.
> message
> > > > No kidding; I think it took about 10 open races before I managed to
> > finish
> > > > one without some crazies taking half the field out, either on
purpose
> or
> > > > through sheer incompetence. Throw in a dose of warping racers and
it
> > gets
> > > > pretty frustrating. About 8 attempts in, my LPI was 2.8 and I'd
just
> > > gotten
> > > > taken out again, this time *behind the pace car*. That gets old
> quick.
> > > > It's a moot point now, but a think another great example of why
online
> > > > racing sims need a "driver certification" tool; something along the
> > lines
> > > of
> > > > Nascar Heat's "Beat the Heat", but less entertainment-oriented. If
> > people
> > > > were required to achieve some level of skill and discipline that
could
> > be
> > > a
> > > > server-option joining hurdle, ala ranking and LPI, I think most of
> that
> > > > would be solved.
> > > > It's not people who try to but can't drive that are the big problem;
> > it's
> > > > the ones who don't even try - they just show up, wreak havoc and
bail
> > for
> > > > the next race, right foot planted.
> > > > Oh well; enough ranting. Back to working that LPI back up... ;-)
> > > > SB
> > > > > Amazing insight you have there Eldred. Just spent 9 solid hours
> racing
> > > > > online, and not only do they still not care if they crash, they
also
> > > still
> > > > > do not care if they wreck you !!
> > > > > Swear to God, if just one more baboon announces "this is my first
> race
> > > > > online w/ 2003" and then goes 3 wide in turn one with that
damnable
> > > jasper
> > > > > setup I'm gonna scream....
> > > > > > >Maybe that will help motivate drivers to drive cleaner online
> some
> > :)
> > > > > > Nope - the ones that crash without caring STILL won't care.
> That's
> > my
> > > > > > prediction.
> > > > > > Eldred
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> > > > > > GPLRank:-0.381
> > > > > > MonsterRank: +339.873
> > > > > > N2002 Rank:+17.59
> > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level,
then
> > > beats
> > > > > you
> > > > > > with experience...
> > > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
If you've been around this game long enough you know that warping can make
an opponents car appear to do anything, even what you consider "clearly not
warp".
You need to see their replay to see the situation they were presented with,
and how they responded.
In N2 (on TEN) I had two replays, both showed two cars side by side in the
turn. On my replay I was the low car, On the other (from the other driver's
computer), I was the car on the outside.
Warp is evil.
And...
You can NEVER see what I see period. You may THINK you see, but you really
don't see <g> (Obiwan maybe).. Say that twice fast, after 2 40's ;)
Seriously though, you have to watch MY replay if you want any respect from
me cause thats the nature of the beast. Don't accuse unless youre willing
to watch it. No matter how long youre around this game for. And Ive been
around since nearly the beginning, I still have my beta floppies for ICR,
and the 486/20 I ran it on <g>.
BTW Larry, If I fuk up YOU WILL see a *S* sometime during or after the race.
Thats how you know it wasnt warp from me. I don't apologize when it's warp
either. And Warp isn't an excuse it's reality. This stubbornness has
costed me many times but hey, thats me and I dont really care if anyone
likes it or not :) Like Rusty says "Im not here to make best freinds, Im
here to RACE".
Mitch
> > Because in a lot of cases I can see very clearly that it was NOT warp at
> > all.
> > It's become the ultimate scape goat for others***ups.
> > You can tell when warp really happens if you 've been around this game
> long
> > enough.
> If you've been around this game long enough you know that warping can make
> an opponents car appear to do anything, even what you consider "clearly
not
> warp".
> You need to see their replay to see the situation they were presented
with,
> and how they responded.
> In N2 (on TEN) I had two replays, both showed two cars side by side in the
> turn. On my replay I was the low car, On the other (from the other
driver's
> computer), I was the car on the outside.
> Warp is evil.