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GPL / AI CHEAT

Sebastien Tixie

GPL / AI CHEAT

by Sebastien Tixie » Tue, 27 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi,

here things i saw in GPL :

1 - sometimes AI drivers make things that its impossible to do !
  I've pushed a driver and he manage to stay on road, with
a strange handling :  do AI are subjected to same physics than
player are ???? I don't think so !

2 - in the same action AI driver crash in a wall ( Monza ) at
250 km/h and didn't have any damage !!! AI have stronger car
than human ????? I think so !

3 - and last action that have been strange but could be real :
 i 've braked early in straight before parabolica at monza and
the eagle behind me crash into my car : does it cause by his car :
eagle have bad brake or by AI who couldn't brake early because
it not his braking point ??? Well i hope it's the eagle !

So if point 1 is what i think there's only 1 car wich his physics is
computed
so is it 3D computation ( rotation,projection,... ) that take so much
CPU ???
If point 2 and 3 is what i think, it's a shame that my car have been
damaged bu
not the AI one !!!

4 - GPL is a great sim, and i enjoy it a lot, but it's a little
frustrating that AI are favourised !

Seb

Marc Collin

GPL / AI CHEAT

by Marc Collin » Tue, 27 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I agree with all of your points--it makes racing against AI a very
frustrating experience.

>Hi,

>here things i saw in GPL :

>1 - sometimes AI drivers make things that its impossible to do !
>  I've pushed a driver and he manage to stay on road, with
>a strange handling :  do AI are subjected to same physics than
>player are ???? I don't think so !

>2 - in the same action AI driver crash in a wall ( Monza ) at
>250 km/h and didn't have any damage !!! AI have stronger car
>than human ????? I think so !

>3 - and last action that have been strange but could be real :
> i 've braked early in straight before parabolica at monza and
>the eagle behind me crash into my car : does it cause by his car :
>eagle have bad brake or by AI who couldn't brake early because
>it not his braking point ??? Well i hope it's the eagle !

>So if point 1 is what i think there's only 1 car wich his physics is
>computed
>so is it 3D computation ( rotation,projection,... ) that take so much
>CPU ???
>If point 2 and 3 is what i think, it's a shame that my car have been
>damaged bu
>not the AI one !!!

>4 - GPL is a great sim, and i enjoy it a lot, but it's a little
>frustrating that AI are favourised !

>Seb

David L. Coo

GPL / AI CHEAT

by David L. Coo » Tue, 27 Oct 1998 04:00:00


> I agree with all of your points--it makes racing against AI a very
> frustrating experience.

Not as frustrating as racing with 20 real drivers (unless you're very good
- which I'm not).  At least the AI doesn't slam into you when you're
cornering - and starts are much cleaner ;)

DC

Matthew V. Jessic

GPL / AI CHEAT

by Matthew V. Jessic » Tue, 27 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> > I agree with all of your points--it makes racing against AI a very
> > frustrating experience.

> Not as frustrating as racing with 20 real drivers (unless you're very good
> - which I'm not).  At least the AI doesn't slam into you when you're
> cornering - and starts are much cleaner ;)

And of course a main point is that racing against
humans who all have the same dynamics and performance modeling
satisfies the first posters complaint.

- Matt


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