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by **Dan Dickerso** » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 14:20:47

DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP! It cause me all kinds of
problems and was a pain to uninstall. XP already has all the drivers you
need. Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work perfectly
with the Sidewinder software installed.

--

- Dan

by **James Pickar** » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 17:54:08

I found the opposite. The version 4.0 drivers work fine for me. MSFF USB
wheel and XP Pro.

James

by **redTe** » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 20:20:42

This is the USB model you're talking about, right ?

by **Zardo** » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 20:22:25

Yea, that's what I do on XP too. But now I can't use split axis pedals.

by **Karl Branki** » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 19:55:19

Dan - is that gameport or USB ?

I have just had a new computer delivered with XP pre-installed.

I am expecting all sorts of problems with the gameport wheel.

Any experinces or tips ?

Thanks

by **redTe** » Sun, 03 Feb 2002 21:33:41

Gameport version will NOT be supported by Microsoft. That's official. Complete bastards.
129 down the tubes. It was old, I know. But I still prefer it even over my new USB MOMO
wheel.
Just like me, you will be getting a new wheel for your birthday !

by **Dan Dickerso** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 00:40:36

Yeah guys, I'm using the USB wheel. And you're correct, there seems to not
be a way to use split pedals, but in CMR2 and F1CS2K that doesn't seem to
cause a problem.

--

- Dan

> > DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP! It cause me all kinds of
> > problems and was a pain to uninstall. XP already has all the drivers
you
> > need. Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work
perfectly
> > with the Sidewinder software installed.

> Yea, that's what I do on XP too. But now I can't use split axis pedals.

by **HeadHunte** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 01:31:26

Hmmm, I have XP Home and the Sidewinder 4.0 software for my MSFF USB wheel
and everything installed and it working just fine.

HH

> Yeah guys, I'm using the USB wheel. And you're correct, there seems to
not
> be a way to use split pedals, but in CMR2 and F1CS2K that doesn't seem to
> cause a problem.

> --

> - Dan

> > > DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP! It cause me all kinds
of
> > > problems and was a pain to uninstall. XP already has all the drivers
> you
> > > need. Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work
> perfectly
> > > with the Sidewinder software installed.

> > Yea, that's what I do on XP too. But now I can't use split axis pedals.

by **Chris H** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 01:53:09

Very unusual. What operating system are you running, with what sims? Did
you install the software first, then plug in the USB? Can you describe
step-by-step how you got it running?
--
Chris H.

> Hmmm, I have XP Home and the Sidewinder 4.0 software for my MSFF USB wheel
> and everything installed and it working just fine.

> HH

> > Yeah guys, I'm using the USB wheel. And you're correct, there seems to
> not
> > be a way to use split pedals, but in CMR2 and F1CS2K that doesn't seem
to
> > cause a problem.

> > --

> > - Dan

> > > > DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP! It cause me all kinds
> of
> > > > problems and was a pain to uninstall. XP already has all the
drivers
> > you
> > > > need. Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work
> > perfectly
> > > > with the Sidewinder software installed.

> > > Yea, that's what I do on XP too. But now I can't use split axis
pedals.

by **Zardo** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 06:26:51

I tried the software on XP and first it complained that it wouldn't work and
although it worked some of the time it didn't all of the time. I would set
split axis and the games would not see it as split axis so i just
uninstalled the software. Having split axis is no big deal to me anyway.

by **Biz** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 07:49:48

Split axis is a must for any of the better driving sims like N4 or GPL.

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

> > Hmmm, I have XP Home and the Sidewinder 4.0 software for my MSFF USB wheel
> > and everything installed and it working just fine.

> > HH

> I tried the software on XP and first it complained that it wouldn't work and
> although it worked some of the time it didn't all of the time. I would set
> split axis and the games would not see it as split axis so i just
> uninstalled the software. Having split axis is no big deal to me anyway.

by **HeadHunte** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:35:38

As stated, I am running WinXP Home and the Sidewinder 4.0 software that came
with my MSFF USB wheel. I use the wheel without problem in NASCAR4, NASCAR
Racing Season 2002 Demo, Grand Prix Legends, Sports Car GT and F1
Championship Season 2000.

I installed the software first. It gave me a "This program may not work with
Windows 2000" (or something similiar) message and asked if I wanted to
continue. I chose to continue, rebooted after installation, then plugged the
wheel in. No problems at all. It has been working flawlessly since.

HH

> Very unusual. What operating system are you running, with what sims? Did
> you install the software first, then plug in the USB? Can you describe
> step-by-step how you got it running?
> --
> Chris H.

> > Hmmm, I have XP Home and the Sidewinder 4.0 software for my MSFF USB
wheel
> > and everything installed and it working just fine.

> > HH

> > > Yeah guys, I'm using the USB wheel. And you're correct, there seems
to
> > not
> > > be a way to use split pedals, but in CMR2 and F1CS2K that doesn't seem
> to
> > > cause a problem.

> > > --

> > > - Dan

> > > > > DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP! It cause me all
kinds
> > of
> > > > > problems and was a pain to uninstall. XP already has all the
> drivers
> > > you
> > > > > need. Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work
> > > perfectly
> > > > > with the Sidewinder software installed.

> > > > Yea, that's what I do on XP too. But now I can't use split axis
> pedals.

by **Peter Ogde** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:45:56

What do people mean by "Split Axis"?

--
- Peter Ogden
Perth, Western Australia

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 23:18:17

Split axis is used to refer to setups that have a separate input for both
your brake and your throttle. Think of a pair of pedals as a joystick.
WithOUT split axis you can push the joystick forware(throttle) but then you
cannot also pull back(push the brake pedal) at the same time. Split axis is
like having two separate joysticks, so that while you are appling forward
pressure theo the throttle joystick, you can, at the same time, apply
pressure to the brake joystick.
If you look at a calibration screen, a pedal set withOUT split axis will
only allow one motion at a time. If you press both pedals, they will cancel
each other out(so it's like totally lifting off the gas and brake even tho
you have both pedals depressed all the way) With split axis you can press
both pedals and they calibrate separately so you can have the gas fully
depressed and the brake just slightly down and neither will conflict with
the other.
Fast drivers use this, or so I'm told, to apply a tiny amount of throttle
while braking to help 'steady' the car. When I try it I just bury the nose
into the nearest fence.
dave henrie

by **Dan Dickerso** » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 14:24:56

HH,

Do you ever detect a lack of modulation of the gas or brake pedals? That
was my problem, the gas was either full on or full off when running the
sidewinder 4.0 software. Also, do you use schemes (or profiles) in the
software or do you leave profiles disabled?

- Dan

> > What do people mean by "Split Axis"?
> > --
> > - Peter Ogden
> > Perth, Western Australia
> Split axis is used to refer to setups that have a separate input for
both
> your brake and your throttle. Think of a pair of pedals as a joystick.
> WithOUT split axis you can push the joystick forware(throttle) but then
you
> cannot also pull back(push the brake pedal) at the same time. Split axis
is
> like having two separate joysticks, so that while you are appling forward
> pressure theo the throttle joystick, you can, at the same time, apply
> pressure to the brake joystick.
> If you look at a calibration screen, a pedal set withOUT split axis will
> only allow one motion at a time. If you press both pedals, they will
cancel
> each other out(so it's like totally lifting off the gas and brake even tho
> you have both pedals depressed all the way) With split axis you can press
> both pedals and they calibrate separately so you can have the gas fully
> depressed and the brake just slightly down and neither will conflict with
> the other.
> Fast drivers use this, or so I'm told, to apply a tiny amount of
throttle
> while braking to help 'steady' the car. When I try it I just bury the
nose
> into the nearest fence.
> dave henrie

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