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MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

Dan Dickerso

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Dan Dickerso » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 15:26:03

OK, here's and update.  I followed HH's install steps and reinstalled the
sidewinder software.  Everything seems to be working fine.  This time, I did
NOT install the "schemes" which may have been the source of my original
problems (maybe?).  Either that or the order in which the software is
installed and the game controller connected is critical.  Thanks HH.  Now I
can use separate pedal mode, although I doubt it will make me any faster!

--

- Dan


Peter Ogde

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Peter Ogde » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 20:29:05

OK, that is what I thought it meant - I was just confirming this. In that
case, the built-in WinXP Pro MSFF driver (at least in my case) ONLY provides
split-axis. I'm having no trouble at all playing GPL with my MSFF Wheel
under WinXP Pro - and this is an old gameport unit.

--
 - Peter Ogden
   Perth, Western Australia


Zardo

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Zardo » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 06:26:25


Why? I press on the gas pedal and it moves forward, I press on the brake
pedal and it stops. Seems to work ok for me.

HeadHunte

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by HeadHunte » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:41:34

Glad it's now working for you! I did install a few of the schemes but have
not used them. I have my own that I setup as default. All I have programmed
in is one button each for F11 and F12 (for use with N4 Assistant) and one
for "space". Other that that everything else on the wheel is programmed to
the defaults.

It probably was the order in which you installed/connected stuff. I've built
2 XP systems with the MSFF USB Wheel and both work fine. I did both the same
way, install software, reboot then connect wheel.

HH


> OK, here's and update.  I followed HH's install steps and reinstalled the
> sidewinder software.  Everything seems to be working fine.  This time, I
did
> NOT install the "schemes" which may have been the source of my original
> problems (maybe?).  Either that or the order in which the software is
> installed and the game controller connected is critical.  Thanks HH.  Now
I
> can use separate pedal mode, although I doubt it will make me any faster!

> --

> - Dan



> > DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP!  It cause me all kinds of
> > problems and was a pain to uninstall.  XP already has all the drivers
you
> > need.  Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work
perfectly
> > with the Sidewinder software installed.

> > --

> > - Dan

Chris H

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Chris H » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:47:52

Sure worked very simply here, too, HH.  I'm running the GPL scheme without
any modification at the moment and coming within two or three seconds of my
best times on various tracks.  Sure seems smooth now.
--
Chris H.


> Glad it's now working for you! I did install a few of the schemes but have
> not used them. I have my own that I setup as default. All I have
programmed
> in is one button each for F11 and F12 (for use with N4 Assistant) and one
> for "space". Other that that everything else on the wheel is programmed to
> the defaults.

> It probably was the order in which you installed/connected stuff. I've
built
> 2 XP systems with the MSFF USB Wheel and both work fine. I did both the
same
> way, install software, reboot then connect wheel.

> HH



> > OK, here's and update.  I followed HH's install steps and reinstalled
the
> > sidewinder software.  Everything seems to be working fine.  This time, I
> did
> > NOT install the "schemes" which may have been the source of my original
> > problems (maybe?).  Either that or the order in which the software is
> > installed and the game controller connected is critical.  Thanks HH.
Now
> I
> > can use separate pedal mode, although I doubt it will make me any
faster!

> > --

> > - Dan



> > > DO NOT install the Sidewinder software on XP!  It cause me all kinds
of
> > > problems and was a pain to uninstall.  XP already has all the drivers
> you
> > > need.  Wheel works perfectly on CMR2 and F1CS2K and did not work
> perfectly
> > > with the Sidewinder software installed.

> > > --

> > > - Dan

Zardo

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Zardo » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:53:07


>Glad it's now working for you! I did install a few of the schemes but have
>not used them. I have my own that I setup as default. All I have programmed
>in is one button each for F11 and F12 (for use with N4 Assistant) and one
>for "space". Other that that everything else on the wheel is programmed to
>the defaults.

>It probably was the order in which you installed/connected stuff. I've built
>2 XP systems with the MSFF USB Wheel and both work fine. I did both the same
>way, install software, reboot then connect wheel.

>HH

You sure it works all the time? Have you tried switching between split
axis and single axis? Why would MS say it is not compatible on their
website if it is?
Chris H

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Chris H » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:02:38

I haven't rebooted since the software installation reboot, but have been in
and out of GPL a bunch of times today.  I would imagine this might be where
some people are seeing the need to recalibrate in Control Panel/Game
Controllers after having shut down the computer for a while.  Don't know
because this computer is rarely off, but when I reboot one of these days
I'll check it.
--
Chris H.



> >Glad it's now working for you! I did install a few of the schemes but
have
> >not used them. I have my own that I setup as default. All I have
programmed
> >in is one button each for F11 and F12 (for use with N4 Assistant) and one
> >for "space". Other that that everything else on the wheel is programmed
to
> >the defaults.

> >It probably was the order in which you installed/connected stuff. I've
built
> >2 XP systems with the MSFF USB Wheel and both work fine. I did both the
same
> >way, install software, reboot then connect wheel.

> >HH

> You sure it works all the time? Have you tried switching between split
> axis and single axis? Why would MS say it is not compatible on their
> website if it is?

Biz

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Biz » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:25:28

Watch how the best do it on tv, they use both pedals at the same in many instances, the same as many
of us sim racers do.  You can't use both pedals at the same time without split axis support.

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash




> > Split axis is a must for any of the better driving sims like N4 or GPL.

> Why? I press on the gas pedal and it moves forward, I press on the brake
> pedal and it stops. Seems to work ok for me.

HeadHunte

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by HeadHunte » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 12:53:59

Well, it works everytime for me. I have not had a single problem with my MS
wheel in XP. Works flawlessly. I can't say about split/single axis as I have
no need for single axis at all, so haven't checked to see if it worked.

Why would MS say it is not compatible on their website if it is?

Well.... it's Microsoft, that's why! :)

HH


Dan Dickerso

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Dan Dickerso » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 15:33:49

I spoke too soon!  All SEEMED to be working fine but, I went to the
controller calibration page of CMR2 where there is a bar graph which moves
relative to the motion of the game controllers.  The throttle modulated
fine, but now the brakes do not modulate - they're either full on or full
off.  Turning off the schemes also defaults back to combined pedal mode -
everything modulates well there, but if I enact the schemes to enable split
pedal axes, the brakes won't modulate.

--

- Dan


> Well, it works everytime for me. I have not had a single problem with my
MS
> wheel in XP. Works flawlessly. I can't say about split/single axis as I
have
> no need for single axis at all, so haven't checked to see if it worked.

> Why would MS say it is not compatible on their website if it is?

> Well.... it's Microsoft, that's why! :)

> HH



> > You sure it works all the time? Have you tried switching between split
> > axis and single axis? Why would MS say it is not compatible on their
> > website if it is?

Zardo

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Zardo » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:49:59


>Well, it works everytime for me. I have not had a single problem with my MS
>wheel in XP. Works flawlessly. I can't say about split/single axis as I have
>no need for single axis at all, so haven't checked to see if it worked.

Some games don't support split axis even if you have it set to split
axis. They use their own setup routine and ignore the windows
configuration.
Zardo

MSFF wheel on XP recommendation

by Zardo » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:50:48



Ah-ha! Knew it. :-)


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